Fediverse

A bit scarier than the previous one at first glance, but the single line explanation including everything needed to understand makes it easier to read.

I know lots of folks look at this and see a shattering of the what they expect. The Fediverse is NOT a platform. Lemmy.world is NOT the Threadiverse. Let's break these bonds. I left a server because I was suspected of being a CIA plant. I went to one that was more welcoming. I found they were too strict for me on their rules. I left that. I'm not on piefed.social. I'm planning on running my own piefed for ME and MY family/friends hopefully SOON^TM. If someone defederates from me, that's ok, they didn't want me to be a part of their community. MY community still exists.

These aren't platforms that are out there trying to save the entire world. They're building a community that interconnects to other communities. Don't like how they're doing it, you can literally spin up your own for dollars per month.

Yes, if you want your stuff to be found you have to advocate for it.

I think the Trek communities are stand outs of how this works and how it should be done. Think of like old Forum days. Normally folks would create a forum for a specific topic and other thigns would go other places. But now those forums connect and you can run your own and connect to everyone.

Break this idea that this major pillars disconnecting are fracturing the fediverse. IMO the more small instances we have the stronger the network.

So build a Piefed/Lemmy/Mastodon/GoToSocial/Bonfire whatever for your community and then allow those to connect out to others.

The idea of this change is scary though. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we can't exist the way I hope we do. But I think humans strive for community and communication and we have a new way to provide it to them.

Hexbear uses a whitelist so they are not federated with a bunch of these instances besides .world

I’m kinda surprised that so many instances have defederated from fedinsfw.app It’s just porn, right? Who cares?

Maybe I’m naive and missing an important point. If so, I apologize for my ignorance.

This graph is indeed a lot more intuitively readable. I think it could be improved further by avoiding needlessly crossing the arrows, like for example pawb.social -> lemmygrad.ml is crossing multiple other arrows, even though they are right next to another. Some arrows could also be shorter to avoid crossings, like beehaw.org -> sh.itjust.works

I'm on sh.ijust.works because it has a bad word in it. I don't know what you're all complaining about

It doesn't even Include https://lemmy.today/ that has no defederation or blocking at all, and has never had, since the admin feels it's up to the user and not the admin to decide these things. You know, free and open internet, remember?

Also one of the best themes of all Lemmy instances if you ask me.

This graph is a lot more understandable, but the yellow is hard to see. I can't tell what instance lemmy.ml is defederating.

I like this representation a lot.

The similar color makes it slightly difficult to read but the graph is better, and easier to understand. Anyways, you are skilled, good job :3

So why does everyone hate lemmygrad and hexbear? I'm out of the loop on that.

What a mess. Not the graph, just all the netsplits in general.

It would be cool to have something like the internet map but of the fediverse

In addition to comments others have made about some of the colors being difficult to see/differentiate, I think it would be worthwhile to distinguish one-way defederation from mutual defederation, perhaps with a texture?

It would make the graphic busier, but I also would enjoy seeing population percentages next to each instance name (to give weight to the significance of certain defederations, e.g. how much of the fediverse are you excluding by defederating with hexbear vs lemmy.world).

I find this much harder to read than the previously posted diagram, and it contains less information.

This makes much more sense thanks

It's a very clear visualization. I do agree that some indication of the scale/activity of the instances would be a nice addition.

I also think you should add a date, as the relationships and active servers will likely change over time. If you keep it up, eventually you'll have a collection that illustrates the changes.

I have to say, now it's even more amusing to hear people claim '.world is a bunch of narrow minded [whatevers] who block all opinions they don't like' (2 instances 😱)

Ah, thankyou! As a lazy person not sure who my instance was blocking, I now know. Excellent. Better find an instance who doesn't block any instances.

Now I am curious what is going on in fedinsfw.

I notice that it presents sites with the same editorial body as separate cases, such as piefed.ca and lemmy.ca. Perhaps it would make sense and potentially improve readability to collapse any cases that have the same in and out arcs as each other. (So, all the cases that have no blocks and only block lemmygrad as one collapsed entry, for example.)

Cool diagram.

If you removed hexbear and lemmygrad (nearly everyone defederates them so they just clutter the place up) then the other information would be clearer. For example I didn't notice that beehaw has defederated both lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works until my third viewing.