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[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 283 points 6 days ago (6 children)
[–] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 68 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yes. So many. Everyone involved in this decision, on both the legislative and corporate sides, needs to get the fucking wall.

But it's new Orleans, so some of the difficult to emotionally comprehend number of deaths it causes might at least be funny.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I have mixed feelings on this and how they are implementing it. Here's the direct quote

This is intended to handle the increase of calls that are related to one incident, so callers get automatically routed to an AI agent who asks if they are calling regarding the incident. If the answer is yes, then callers can receive information or updates, and if it's no, then the callers are transferred to a human.

In a way this will reduce caller volume for the same incidents being called in over and over again. Seems like they are using a direct yes or no question which decreases any issues with the AI making shit up.

I do see how this can free up humans to deal with other calls and dispatch lifesaving services faster, eliminating repeat calls.

However, even if the AI works as described (which is a big if anyway), having to navigate even a simple yes or no will reduce time to lifesaving care.

Our 911 system has been slow and inadequate for a long time now. There has been an absolute refusal to fix it, and this has led to deaths. I do see this application easing that issue a bit, but I also see how this will cause deaths in a different way. Is it better to die on hold waiting for an operator or is it better to die navigating an AI system? I think less would die overall with the new system. It has been trained using the non-emergency call line.

To be clear I want us to just fund people to staff the 911 call center, but these shortages have been an issue for decades. Local governments refuse or are unable to take on the additional costs. I'm really unsure on how to feel about all this. My gut reaction is disgust, but I do see what they are trying to do. I guess we'll have to wait for the data and stories

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[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But...just think how many money they can save! You are being selfish!

/s

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (26 children)

Yeah, I can just imagine how well a "AI" would deal with a situation like this when they can't even operate a drive-thru properly.

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[–] kyonshi@piefed.social 92 points 6 days ago (5 children)
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah but it's just poor people so who cares. Look at the sweet pool the AI company bought whoever approved this!

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[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (21 children)

Everyone should read before reacting:

This is intended to handle the increase of calls that are related to one incident, so callers get automatically routed to an AI agent who asks if they are calling regarding the incident. If the answer is yes, then callers can receive information or updates, and if it's no, then the callers are transferred to a human.

This makes sense. A big thing happens that you are aware of. Geolocated calls from that area flood in. An operator, who could be getting useful info, has to handle a flood of "Guess what I just saw!"

Note that I think they should spend the money on more operators instead, but at least this seems like it has good guardrails.

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Except that could be done without AI. Just have a recording that says "we are aware of ... taking place near you, are you calling about this ? “, then answer with yes/no.

No need for bullshit AI.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

My understanding from other articles is caller satisfaction is greater with the TTS system, and it uses voice IVR to triage of they have additional information. AI is not bullshit in and of itself. This product seems barely diffeent from what they provided with APEX.

Recordings also can't auto respond with updates to the caller like this can, which is a pretty nice feature, even if it's just TTS.

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 13 points 4 days ago

Working my way through Person of Interest again. Just watched one where a search company was directing suicidal inquiries to ads instead of helplines. And that was before they get bought by the evil AI overlord. Its surreal seeing Palantir, Flock and all the tech companies race to implement a dystopia no sane person would ever want and there is so little push back. What the fuck is wrong with regular people?

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 81 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Grok911, what is your emergency and do you know about the genocide of white South Africans?

[–] nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Would you like to read some Lolita fanfic while I’m thinking?

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago

"Activate your camera so you can face time with my anime girl avatar"

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[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (48 children)

:sigh: Yet again, nobody reads the fucking article and it is VERY obvious from most of the comments. If you can't be bothered, then don't fucking comment.

If you had READ the article: They're answering with the AI saying like "Are you calling about X?" If the callers says no, they are transferred to a human. If they ARE calling about an incident, then they can get updates and information about it.

Now, I grant that this is still not perfect, but the stated goal is humans spending less time talking to people reporting an incident already reported so they can actually talk to people needing help faster.

Assuming that works out, this is actually a good idea and an improvement.

Now, if you wanna be cynical about it, fine. But just read the damn article and be cynical about what's actually happening, not about what you think from the headline, or all you end up looking like an ass.

I came into the comments to have a good discussion on the issue. I should have known better. I'm so irritated by the majority of comments that I lost interested in the topic itself, even though there's at least one ofther comment I saw also pointing out what the article says. But no, the majority of you can't be bothered, so screw this. And you bitch about reddit.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 16 points 5 days ago

You don't need "ai" for this though. IVRs have been doing this for literal decades. Your average dialup ISP had a standard option for times of outages ffs.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Still, it’s a sloppy headline designed for clicks or thumbs up. It would be more accurate if it was “AI is to initially screen calls….”

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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is exhausting y'all. God I fucking hate LLMs so much. This tech could be such a exciting break through, a step towards real artificial intelligence, but stuck in academia where it belongs. Instead of getting to be excited and interested this inanimate compilation of matrices is breathing down my neck constantly.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This tech could be such a exciting break through, a step towards real artificial intelligence

No, not really lol.

The best analogy for this that I've heard is that it's like saying elevators are a step towards teleporters. Calling it "intelligence" is a marketing coup. It is not intelligence, artificial or otherwise.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Have you seen the first elevators? Or even used a chat bot prior to this? The definition of "AI" for a long time was just "decision trees" or some really neat classification systems. This is different. The hype and terrible business practices is the problem not the idea itself.

I also agree that calling it Artificial intelligence is a marking scheme, it's a loaded term machine learning is better. This has always kinda been a problem. Technically it's very loosely defined. I always refer to it as LLMs

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 56 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 70 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

"Please help! I'm trapped in a basement and there's a man with a gun!"

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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

(...)

You’re right to push back. I understand why you’re upset, and I’m sorry you experienced that.

If you’re still in danger, please try to remain calm, find a secure location, and contact emergency services.

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💭 Think through your options,
🫂 Find appropriate support, or
📝 Draft a statement about the incident?

I’m here to help.

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[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

People are going to die because of that, even if AI is merely handling call "triage".

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[–] Wunz@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You are absolutely right to call me out on that. He did break in, and he is now stabbing you. I will adjust for this in the future. Is there anything else I can help you with?

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

So now we're at the stage of killing people directly, got it!

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

But universal healthcare leads to death panels or something.....

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[–] M137@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That title is written by someone who failed basic grammar. It should be "New Orleans will use AI instead of humans to answer 911 calls".
What it says as it's written is "AI will only answer 911 calls but not a human"... which doesn't make any sense.

[–] percent@infosec.pub 2 points 3 days ago

It's also sensationalized. I guess the article's actual headline just isn't spicy enough:

New Orleans hoping limited AI use could speed response for emergencies

[–] Miller@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fortunately those most directly involved in the decision have put their names on record to be held criminally accountable should any deaths occur that might have been avoided by the use of human operators and have thereby promised not to fade into the background when it all goes wrong.

[–] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They won't ever be held accountable by any legal process.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago

Sure, what could possibly go wrong?

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Please listen closely to our menu as our options have recently changed...

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[–] dan69@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago
[–] Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 6 days ago

This certainly couldn't go wrong

[–] UpAndAtThem@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Can I get desperately needed help please??? N.O.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 19 points 6 days ago

What could possibly go wrong?

[–] NathanRanch@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Capitalism creating situations that won't outright be responsible for murder, but will definitely increase deaths among vulnerable people.

Evolution selecting for good capitalists.

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[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago
[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Press 1 if your being raped press 2 if someone is trying to kill you please hold.

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