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I am a little shocked at the lack of solidarity I see between artists working in different mediums wrt genAI.

Musicians who would never use it to make music use it to make cover art

Graphic artists reach for it to make music over their videos

Writers use it to illustrate their articles

And, considering software development an art, many use it to create web sites or apps to host their art.

None of this is necessary. All of this is harmful to the other artists.

Collaborate ffs.

Stop it.

Aug 09, 2026, 12:17 AM

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As a musician, and as a friend of many graphic artists, writers, programmers, designers, and other kinds of artists, I hate how many people just think in their own benefit. Like, they don't seem to understand that's one of the main problems, because while I use AI to create cover artz and at the same time complain about not having enough demand and about my music being stolen, which takes away my opportunities to work, a graphic artist/cartoonist could be using AI to make music for their showcases/shelves and complaining about not having enough demand and about others (me, in this case) stealing their art. What I mean is, we're both harming each other and reducing our net benefit margin, thus leading to a Pareto suboptimal.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think a big part of the problem is that most people just can't afford each other.

Sure, you can do "paid in kind" (which has it's own complexities) but mainly there's so many overheads in life, as well as middlemen extorting out their cut that hiring a creative is cripplingly expensive.

It's something only affordable to either those with a lot of disposable income, or those who are planning to make a hefty profit from it (and won't be worrying about money in the meantime either).

Even in times when I was making the same income as a plumber, the idea of hiring one was deeply financially intimidating. Even an independent one. The way it's stacked, you can only afford to hire people in a lower class/caste/tax-bracket than yourself.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago

100% this. They couldn't afford each other before. Just because AI options are cheap and fast doesn't make them able to afford real work suddenly.

Yep. And people want to work on something they're passionate about. So unless you're actively collaborating all through the creative process, it's mostly going to be one person's creative vision. You can say that the music video is a collaboration between the animator/effects artist and the musician, but if the musician has something specific in mind that they want to make, that's not going to feel like a collaboration for the video artist,it's going to feel like a commission. Which no one wants to do for free.

[–] digital_alchemist@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago
[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Seen this myself.

I just semi-retired after 10 years of writing My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic fanfiction. It was a nice little side hustle that brought in 1-2k a year and I enjoyed learning how to write stories.

In the past I would write a story and then either commission an artist for some cover art, or find some that suited the story on one of the many MLP art databases and ask permission to use it. In 10 years of writing over a million words I was never once refused my request to use someone's art, and I always made sure the artist was credited.

But, in the past year or so the primary website for MLP fanfictions (fimfiction.net) started allowing AI art for covers which like the OP, I feel to be a betrayal of our fellow creatives. We definitely need to stand together against the tide of AI slop, no matter its genre.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

And yeah, I've contributed more than my share of clop, but if you are looking for good non-clop stories check out:

The Dresden Fillies series - Dresden Files crossover

White by Crimnar - short horror story

Changeling Space Program - a riff on the Kerbal Space Program game

Celestia vs Garble - pure comedy in Monty Python style

It Sleeps Beneath Foal Mountain - Lovecraftian horror

Parlous - some of the best uses of archaic words and phrases I've ever read.

None of these are by me. Just some of my favorites

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago

Realistically a lot of the people who are using AI for these were previously just ripping them off the internet and hoping nobody would notice...

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I do music and other art. I did use early AI to make a few music videos because I liked the jankyness of it all. How it was strange and surreal - like a dream. If anything, it was more of an experiment in a medium that wasn't ready.

I don't use any AI today except to mock it. I reject it as much as possible.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, there was a period there where it was super interesting to explore and learn about. As a technology, it still is! But as a corporate product, it's the essence of everything that's wrong with capitalism - no real value in most cases, manufactured needs, embrace-extend-extinguish, and no down about to hit the hard downslope on the enshittification curve too.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 days ago

Unions. We need 'em. Great episode on unions in a TrueAnon ep (podcast) about a week ago.

[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If everyone were angels we wouldn't need money and the issue is that struggling artists have none to spread around. Collaboration is not the answer. Ending the oligarchic kleptocracy so we can afford to pay artists their worth is.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How do we do that without collaboration?

[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

That's a different kind of collaboration. You were talking about artistic collaboration, not political activism.

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