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This is why gamers will continue to be screwed by the industry.

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[–] witnessradiant650@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Gamers are their own worst enemy.

Remember the Modern Warfare 2 debacle? Those who boycotted it ended up playing.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 5 hours ago

I'd believe it. 2 more is "more people".

[–] afaix@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It makes sense though, people who would preorder a game several months before it comes out would be big enough fans to get the expensive edition. Regular people are not buying any game before launch, expensive or not

[–] lordziv 1 points 2 hours ago

Pre-orders for digital content make zero sense tho.

[–] spitfire@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, because the stock is obviously going to run out

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 1 points 9 hours ago

Most people don't really care about abstract or long term things. You can tell them that buying the game supports bad stuff, and they could at least wait for a sale, but they're no better than a toddler.

[–] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

More people are being idiots. Smh.

[–] Soulinyx@piefed.world 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It is this kind of behavior, that I see in generally almost all walks of life, that pushes me more and more to just mind my own business and associate with those who know better. Simply because, I can't rally my inner activist if the large majority of the people, the same ones crying for change but yet won't do it, to exhaust myself in trying to be that change for them. All that I'd be doing, is wasting my time and energy.

So go on, keep buying your $1,000 steam machines, your $100 GTA VIs, you won't learn any better. Anything for clout and FOMO.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I get calling out pre-ordering a digital game, but what's the hate for the steam machine? Sure its maybe a bit pricier than a similarish build, but the form factor and other perks of the system can make up for that.

[–] Soulinyx@piefed.world -1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

People were highly anticipating a machine from Valve that was affordable, flexible, versatile and able to give mid-range to higher-mid-range PCs a run for their money that you had to build.

I remember arguing with someone on a discord channel about its pricing. He was adamant that the price was going to be around $500 ~ $600 to keep the competition. I kept arguing back that with the prices about where hardware has gone for PCs that it will be more pricier. He was $400 off and there are people like him out there, who're that gullible to believe Valve is on their side.

Gamers in general are known to be gullible. Buying a Steam Machine at $1,000 because it was made by Valve, proves this. I would argue that Valve should've just have upgraded the Steam Deck and I find that a far more worthwhile device.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

From what I read, the Steam Machine actually was supposed to be that affordable, but they really didn't have much choice to have the current price point without having to sacrifice performance.

The market for PC parts is fucked.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I'm not sure how someone is gullible for buying hardware around market rates. Like yeah, it sucks that everything is so expensive, but unless you're buying used that's just the way things are right now.

[–] Soulinyx@piefed.world -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I get that part and everyone did speculate that months and weeks before we got the price reveal. It's just, why would someone ignore the market of PC components then expect Valve to be the difference maker? But, that didn't matter because "valve made it, so I buy, just like I do when I buy games I won't play from their holiday sales :B"

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

It's a gaming capable PC that can provide an actual benchmark target...for the first time in the entire history of the industry if you exclude handhelds (even then isn't the deck the only one that actually became a target for a notable number of studios). That alone is worth some extra cost. It's a great entry point for people who only know their phone and it's app store, you know, the vast majority of humanity...also great for people curious about non-windows/apple OS that are intimidated by the sheer volume of knowledge you need to even pick an alternative OS let alone use it reliably. What about all the work Valve keeps doing on open source projects and Linux gaming as a whole?

You're ignoring everything about the device except the price and a per-piece comparison of hardware, when in reality it's about the whole package...plus most of your complaints here have straight up just been you upset that some randos online argued with about both of your speculations on price.

[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I would argue that Valve should’ve just have upgraded the Steam Deck and I find that a far more worthwhile device.

They still do plan making a Steam Deck 2. But given that the Steam Deck OLED also needed a 300 dollar price hike, it's clear that it would have had a similar fate. IDK how many steam deck players being ready to pay 4 figures for a handheld.

( I say this owning an 800 dollar GPD Win 4).

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

CEO claims new product is a hit, refuses to give numbers.

They're wearing bandanas because they smell shit.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

This article is literally worthless without hard numbers. "Exceeding expectations" could be 20 people buying it instead of 10. "More people" could be 2 people. It's all meaningless bullshit.

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Paying present dollars for the promise of a future service. It's not even a good anymore, as they're free to change or revoke it. Wild stuff

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even get the hype about the game. I played GTA 5 and Online enough that I was tired of it like 10 years ago. Big whoop, they made another one.

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago

Oh, I want to play it. But they've made us wait so long, and are milking for every dollar. So, just as with prior GTA game, I'll wait an additional year or more for a PC port.

[–] blackberry28@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Kinda ironic how people say we live in a cost of living crisis but then people also have always money at hand to throw it out the window for top level consumerism stuff. People have no self-restraint, do they

Edit: self-restraint, not self-constraint

[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

the answer to your question is "K-shaped Economy". Lot of people doing this are in fact doing way better than they were 4 years ago. Some of them are indeed taking out more debt to do this, but most haven't felt the pain of this modern economy.

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's because games are cheap compared to many alternatives that people would use to entertain themselves. They are one of the cheapest forms of entertainment when you consider how much time people spend interacting with them. An Uber and a night at a bar, or a dinner for two at a steakhouse could cost more.

I'm not very consumerist, but grew up poor by US standards (and am honestly on my way back). A lot of people seem to want at least some nice things. Sneakers, nice clothes, nails, hair; whatever they're into. I think it helps distract them, or gives them something to look forward to. Part of it may also be that society seems to conflate a persons worth with their income and possessions, and that has been internalized.

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure there was a study done that found that people with lower incomes tend to spend their extra money on experiences and such (tattoos, games, etc.) rather than save and invest. And they do that bc they figure they aren't gonna have the money for long so might as well do something enjoyable with the money when they do have some extra. Whereas people who have higher incomes often have some extra money, so they can make plans and invest with the expectation that they will have more extra money later

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's my experience. I think there's a kind of anxiety that if they don't spend it now, some unexpected expense may come along where they'll have to spend it on that. When unexpected expenses are required, they have to borrow/hustle/pawn/pick up another shift/etc. A lot of people couldn't even balance a budget if they tried (i.e. they don't have enough income to cover both expected and "unexpected" expenses).

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Guessing one of two factors, or a combination.

  • People seek escapism in hard times. 1930's America was going through the Great Depression, but it was also the start of the Golden Age of Hollywood. People still turned out to go to the movies despite the bread lines and poverty. And people will still buy games if they can squeeze it in the budget, even if there are maybe more "responsible" purchases they could make.

  • GTA players probably don't buy as many games. There are gamers who will engage with the medium across dozens of titles catering to various interests. And then there are "gamers" whose entire scope of gaming is some combination of FIFA, Call of Duty, and Grand Theft Auto. When you only buy 1 or 2 games a year, sinking $100 on each doesn't seem as unreasonable as buying 10 games per year at $40.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] blackberry28@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

You're right, edited it, thx.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Gamers are fucking stupid marks. We know this.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Common clay of the earth

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

I think it's pretty cool that I can go, "Oh are you excited for GTA6?" And their answer helps me know if theyre worth my time to talk to.

[–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I know a lot of people buying the $100 version, lots of high end gamers out there

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago
[–] kurmudgeon@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (18 children)

I just don't get the hype personally for GTA VI. I played a couple of the games, skiped a couple, played another and it's just more of the same thing every release. Got bored within a couple hours. Now another one is coming out which will also just be more of the same damn thing. To each their own I guess.

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

GTA is a large open world sandbox... Wanna crash cars? Play cards? Take on the army? Street race? Fly planes? See how many tow trucks a tow truck can tow? Short the stocks? Be a cabbie? [Insert online features here... Not my cup of tea]

Thanks to mods it can also be played similar to Garry's Mod, Track Mania, Forza... Whatever...

It's a sandbox...

And... I won't be buying it until PC. Every other GTA has been day 1 for me... Not buying a PS5 for it.

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[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It should run at an "okay" frame rate on the PS5. But you'll buy it again on the PS6 for complete edition that runs the way the devs intended it. And holy smokes! On the PS7 the remaster is amazing and totally worth buying it again.

[–] decolo@piefed.social 23 points 1 day ago

This is just rage-engagement bait.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (19 children)

of course they are. because gamers are myopic, idiotic little goblins that will yell and scream about every injustice..real or imagined, but will be right there to support the absolute worst aspects of gaming by preordering every ultra mega super deluxe edition.

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[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago
[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Gotta reserve your copy incase the server runs out of RAM or something.

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