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crazy how close the anti-semitic conspiracy theorists were to the truth
So... does that mean that the whole "Epstein was a part of a global Mossad blackmail operation" thing now carries some weight?
A world where Israel never existed (and Zionism never existed) is a world that probably is vastly freer and less authoritarian than the one we live in now... It is incredible to think just what these people have done to sabotage everything over the course of the 78 years they have existed...
Judging by the way a lot of the mainstream party politicians in Europe are doing their outmost to protect and even support Israel even in the face of the UN saying they're commiting a Genocide and activelly targetting children, and doing so against the wishes of the local public opinion, I would say that Israel owns a lot more of European politics and politicians than just the far right parties.
Many European mainstream parties are somewhat against the genocide. Spain and France are probably the most important ones of the lot. Not anti Israel as such, but willing to sanction them. The biggest reason not more is being done is Germany, which is in the weird position of paying reparations for a genocide, which is then used to commit a genocide.
Goddamn you lot like your false dichotomies.
Just because Israel has ties to the European far right, doesn't mean that Russia doesnt.
There's ample proof that Russia has funded and supported numerous far right personalities, exactly the same ones mentioned by Israel.
It's not mutually exclusive for both Israel and Russia to have ties to them - both countries are, after all, far right authoritarian states barely pretending to be democracies, which is exactly what people like LePen and Farage are trying to install in their countries. It is of course why Trump loves them so much, as that is exactly where he is at.
I assume, but I haven't seen proof that there are strong ties between Russia & Israel - I've seen a lot of persuasive evidence that falls short of proof (relationships between Mossad and what used to be KGB go back to well before the fall of the USSR).
It is identical to saying "Elon Musk appeared in reform UK and AfD rallies so Israel is innocent". Anyone who uses such a weak argument to absolve a goverment of their crimes is probably already a devotee to one side and can not be trusted to discuss this topic.
It is already well established that many right wing influencers and billionaires have ties to Russia. What is not so clear is whether if it is to Russian oligarchs or the government directly. I would assume even if the governent, Putin is better at covering his tracks than the idiot OP mentioned or Elon Musk who casts his face on giant screens in extreme right wing rallies (because he needs attention and validation). So he will have atleast a couple of layers of proxies between him and them.
Thank you, i do not have much more to add. All those far-right assholes regardless if from Israel, Russia, US and probably China are trying to destabilize Europe because they do not want them to be a global player, and they are doing a pretty good job.
Yeah, there's absolutely no doubt China is quietly dabbling, and as the other poster loudly notes, the Yanks are elbow deep in causing trouble here too
Does anyone have any tangible evidence or news articles about China? If they are, they are covering their tracks really good.
I don't warrant the accuracy of this info, but a quick search shows the following
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_interference_in_the_2024_United_States_elections
https://www.cfr.org/articles/election-2024-chinas-efforts-interfere-us-presidential-election
thanks will have a look at these
ps: I generally trust wikipedia because they don't go out of their way to please any particular super power. People who call it western propaganda clearly haven't read Wikipedia articles about Gaza or US
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Why does Europe send billions to this terrorist state?
white supremacy, neocolonialism, modern western guilt complex, how many reasons you need?
My theory is: decades gathering kompromat on top and rising politicians in Europe through Epstein's operation as well as from hacking smartphones.
We live in an era with high levels of rot in Politics in Europe, even in the supposedly cleaner countries, so it makes sense that there's a lot of politicians in Europe caught doing things which are criminal or at least shameful by the massive remote surveillance network made possible by things like smartphones (notice how all companies selling smartphone surveillance services are in Israel) and automation or in one of the honeypot operations run with the cooperation of the Mossad, such as Epstein's.
The very, very special combination of sociopathy, feelings of de facto immunity as Justice is often compromised by Political power and complete total ignorance of IT Security in the digital era, would make modern European politicians pretty susceptible to being caught by such decades-long operations trying to do just that.
Yayyyy!!!! Slovenia mentioned 🥳🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮
Janša will save us 😭
Gotta love stevanović as well.
lmao
(sorry for my poor english)
Sori for maj pur ingliš.
Proudly allied with the Front National (or whatever they call themselves these days to sound more palatable), which was co-created by a literal SS. That should tell you all you need to know about their true agenda.
Proudly allied with the Front National (or whatever they call themselves these days to sound more palatable)
RN - "Rassemblement National" -> National Rally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rally
Formerly known as FN - "Front National" before that as you say, and before that "Ordre Nouveau" (New Order) and before that just a friendly bunch of SS members and collaborators along with a lovely group of terrorists know as the OAS (Secret Army).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordre_Nouveau_(1960s)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_arm%C3%A9e_secr%C3%A8te
Charming psychopaths.
In the Netherlands the PVV is funded by israel and the FvD by russia. Both are completely incompetent but keep getting votes, cause "immigrants bad". Anyway both russia and israel can fuck right off.
Do you have soms sources for the fvd funding? I always try to convince my local social sphere with facts and proven arguments. It's usually enough and a shocking argument when I tell my 'PVV isn't so bad' acquaintances that Wilders lived in Israel for quite soms years, which mostly shocks them as they didn't know this...
https://www.nu.nl/binnenland/6189264/dit-zijn-de-pro-poetin-adviseurs-van-thierry-baudet.html
They can't prove it, cause money laundering and all that. But it is pretty obvious they are connected to russia. Every single time there's a vote related to russia, they pick the side of russia.
It's the same way in the US, except that the Russia-backed right-wing party and the Israel-backed right-wing party are the only two parties we have.
Please send help.
The trick is having 17 parties so nobody has a majority and nobody can get shit done because there always needs to be compromising.
IMO, it is.
To be fair, "nobody can get shit done because there always needs to be compromising" is also known as "when Democrats are temporarily in power" in the US 🤷🏻
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"Deep conservative right"...so...Nazis. You're all a bunch of kapos.
"Deep conservative right"...so...Nazis
Nah, fascists. All Nazis are fascists, but not all fascists are Nazis.
For example, the Nazis were big into public infrastructure projects, pretending to be socialist, and restrictive gun laws.
At least one of those are anathema to every modern fascist movement, and to the richest and most powerful one, all three are.
Israel has created alliances with European far right parties. That does not mean Israel created those parties. It just means both hate Muslims and hence work together.
Russia and Israel also have a weird relationship. They sometimes work very closely together. Like Russia is Israels biggest fuel supplier. Israel also has no problem with buying grain Russia stole from Ukraine. Also many Russian oligarchs have Israeli passports. Those contacts have grown stronger since Trump became president.
Before somebody cries about Iran. For Russia the war is absolutely perfect. It means less US aid to Ukraine and higher oil prices. Obviously Israel loves the war as well.
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