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I know it's wrong to force a mentally ill person to compare their suffering to others. When I tell my doctor how horrible my mental health is, what the symptoms are, and they tell me to "think about the casualties of war in Iran", I feel horrible. I would never ever do this to a person who's suffering from mental illness. They probably already have enough on their plate as it is, and shoving the problems of the world in their face at that moment doesn't help anybody. Is that it? I'd appreciate your input on how to verbalize, as pedagogically as possible, why it is wrong, or why it can be wrong.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Im constantly thinking about how other people have it worse and it just increases my depression.

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Same here. It doesn't help. AT ALL. There is a time and place to fight for other people's well being. But that is not this day...

[–] Isa@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

I guess, wanting to continue to believe in the good in mankind, that they are hoping to lift you up, by expressing that it is "not that bad" and that "there are things to still be grateful for" … compared to what others have to go through. Sadly it doesn't works that way.

There are some, objectively "suffering more", whilst doing relatively well. And there are otherd "suffering less", who rather choose to >!end it!<, than to go on. Did the latter really suffer less, than the former?

It helps nobody to "compare" ones suffering with that of others I assume.

Good luck to you and I hope, your situation may get better soon. 🍀

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is that what your doctor said? That's horrible! With that argument you could downplay any and all suffering because you can always find someone who's worse off in some way.

I'd change doctor if I were you (and could).

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago

With that argument you could downplay any and all suffering because you can always find someone who’s worse off in some way.

This is so clear to me now. Thanks! ˆ_ˆ

I'm in the process of switching clinics.

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Your "doctor" is trying to force you to feel empathy for others in (supposedly) worse situations than you when you're already suffering enough as it is - and doing so while seriously lacking empathy for you. Screw that asshole - they should have their degree revoked because they obviously didn't learn what they were supposed to.

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

Thanks! <3 This felt really good to hear! T_T I am thinking about reporting them to the county, who in my country is responsible for health care.

By the way, I recently learned, that doctors receive MINIMAL training in how to talk to patients and that those that are perceived as good doctors are preceived as such because they were already good listeners and empathetic people from the start.

[–] sam_the_tech@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That is an insane thing for a doctor to say to a patient.

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago

Thanks! I wasn't wrong in thinking that then... What was she trying to do... 😥

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

Uh please report whoever told you that.

[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's wrong because it's simply irrelevant. Would it change anything about your situation if you did have it worse than everyone else (other than not getting comments like this)? I presume not. You're still suffering, full stop, and that's something that should be alleviated.

There will always be someone who has it worse. So the war casualties in Iran allegedly have it worse. First off, do they really? Some might argue that prolonged suffering is worse than a sudden death via a missile. But even without that opinion, there are people who have it worse than the Iran war casualties. You could be stuck in North Korea sentenced to a lifetime of hard labor and have terrible back pain making every hour of that hard labor torture. Does that mean the casualties of the war in Iran aren't relevant anymore? I'm pretty sure just about everyone would answer no.

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That second portion really sheds light on how meaningless it is for a health care provider so say something like that to someone like me in this kind of situation. Naturally, there are people that relatively suffer more than me. But, as you said, it doesn't change to fact that I'm having a meeting with the doctor because right here, right now, I need help. Thanks!

Glad it helped. I'll add that a healthcare provider should not be saying that, although I've experienced similar things myself, unfortunately.

Kudos to you for doing what you need to do for your mental health. I know it isn't easy. Don't let them talk you out of what you need.

EDIT: there was also an interesting quote I saw around here a couple of months ago. If you're drowning, it doesn't matter if you're 10 m or 100 m underwater, you're still drowning.

[–] sharkteethsandwich@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's billions of people in the world. Someone somewhere is always going to have it worse. But that doesn't mean the problems you're facing right now are insignificant and should just be ignored just cause someone you've never met in a place you've never been to is suffering more than you on some arbitrary pain scale.

Your problems and pains are valid.

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

Thanks! <3 How hard is this for doctors to understand?! Are they not trained to make patients feel valid? T_T

[–] Kyle@lemdro.id 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You should absolutely never hear this from your doctor. It's not cool, and feel totally free to convey that in any way you feel like expressing it, there's no wrong way. Also ditch them if you can.

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

Haha, thanks! <3

I way too humble and kind for my own damn good, so I won't be confronting her with it - that is just a different journey on its own... - but I have been thinking about making an official complain with the county's board of health care.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Does your doctor specialize in mental health? A lot of general practitioners don't even bother dealing with mental health issues. Find a different doctor that does, or go down the path of psychologist/psychiatrist.

Also, just find another doctor. Next they will tell you your broken arm isn't that bad, think of amputees. Run from a doctor that doesn't have empathy.

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago

She had been giving off a "let's finish this up so I can go have my coffee" vibes... Thanks! I am really considering changing my primary clinic to another place.

Hope all is well in Gerudo Valley!

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't really think you want a pedagogical take on things. It would be counterproductive. Plus, that would also require citations, which would be difficult to present.

I'm not saying it couldn't be worked up, I'm just saying that the difficulties involved for what I'm confident would be an undesirable outcome make me unwilling to put the time into it.

That being said, when you present your objection to it, you'll want to focus on outcomes.

The primary reason trauma comparison shouldn't be done in therapy is that it goes against best practices. No therapist should be doing it in the first place, much less to the degree a patient feels the need to object. Even a medical doctor shouldn't do it, though they might not be aware of best practices in other fields (though they also shouldn't be trying to practice out of scope either)

But, the reason it's ill advised is that it damages what is already a difficult rapport to build. It breaks trust, it breaks the patient's comfort in opening up, and it turns even a single session adversarial, where the therapist is now someone the patient has to justify things to. That's not conducive to desired outcomes.

See, talk therapy needs to happen in a way that the patient is fully comfortable sharing everything. At any point a therapist blocks that flow of sharing by comparing the patient's experiences to an unrelated situation, at the least it slows down that session. The more that happens, the less trust there is in being heard, in knowing that you can express yourself without judgement.

Frankly, nobody should ever trauma compare, not even us filthy casuals out here trying to get by with our untrained friends and family. It's just a shitty way to treat someone that's opening up to you. You offer comfort, you express that you appreciate them sharing, that they're seen and heard. You don't say shit about the horrors someone else has unless it very directly relates so that the friend in question can know they aren't the only one going through it. You'd think that would be understood by people in general, but it needs saying.

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

Thanks! It was great reading these angles. And to learn how to express the matter: trauma comparison.

I wouldn't even mind some challanges being put forth during a session, if they are properly motivated and prepared for, but, as you said, this was just a shitty thing to say and to do. I feel that this was the last straw and I will change clinic and doctor.

Thanks again!