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[-] A_be_seedy@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago

Establishment Democrats: We're the big tent party. Everyone is welcome here. Come on, come vote with us, come be heard by us, we're welcoming everyone with open arms.

Also Establishment Democrats: Sorry trans people, sorry progressives, the tent is full. Oh the empty seats over there? Those are reserved for Republicans that voted for Trump 3 times but are now regretting it.

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago

Capitalists hate nothing more than actual competition, so of course the establishment Dems want to ensure that their actual base relies on the scraps of political aid they provide. Republicans aren't their competitors when it comes to progressive voters, progressives are.

[-] A_be_seedy@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

Real capitalists believe in fair competition. These are not capitalists, these are hoarders.

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 7 points 1 month ago

If you go by that definition, Real Capitalism has never been tried before!

[-] A_be_seedy@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

There was a period around FDR where it existed for a few years in the US, to a lame degree. The prosperity led to a boom of births called the Me Generation., a generation known for its selfishness from adolescence into its impending death.

There was a ton of inequality due to bigotry at this time, but for the people included it led to prosperity with minimal exploitation. Unfortunately tech moved quick and derailed. But that doesn't mean its broken.

[-] its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org 0 points 1 month ago

Arguably real capitalism is unattainable. Its just as much of an "on paper it works" idea as real Marxism. In brief, when humans who like power and control get in the mix, things get weird.

[-] A_be_seedy@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

I think it's attainable. It just requires a society that's survived long enough to learn how to effectively educate the young, and the recognization that freedom of speech applies to the boundaries of society. As in, a believer of bigotry and/or exploitation cannot exist in society - that would tear society down.

More equitable governments existed before the colonization and homogenization of the globe. Ones with great feats of man too. Maybe the colonialism route moved faster, but that diesht mean it was the better route.

[-] its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

I'll upvote that. I'm less optimistic concerning an egalitarian society. However, I fully agree with you on the tolerance of intolerance point.

[-] A_be_seedy@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

Out of curiosity, why dont you think an egalitarian society can exist?

[-] its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Power in the political sense and willful ignorance in the social sense. A concoction that when brewed results in a colossal nonsense, but sweeps up everything in its path. Its not a western problem; any one, any state, or people is susceptible given the interconnectedness of the world.

I want to be wrong. But I doubt we are attaining something egalitarian for a long time, if ever.

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