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GitHub Has an Availability Problem. Is It Time to Look Elsewhere? (dhruv2038.bearblog.dev)
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[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 144 points 1 week ago

The right time to look elsewhere was when Microsoft bought it.

The next best time was when viable alternatives like GitLab and later, Codeberg appeared.

The next best time was when it became clear that they were stealing your code to feed into their sparkly autocomplete and were going to sell it back to you.

The next best time was when they dumped a bunch of vibecoded garbage into the codebase and killed the uptime.

The next best time is now.

You don't even have to migrate all your stuff. Just start all your new projects on Codeberg, or GitLab, or something self-hosted. Once you get used to the new place, you can migrate your old stuff when you're ready.

[-] dan1101@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

This is exactly it, Microsoft always makes things about themselves. They change everything, mostly for the worse.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Comments like this are so frustrating to see, as my company goes backwards, moving from Gitlab to GitHub.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

I mean, didn't Gitlab also say they were going all-in on AI?

There's no major forge you can use for proprietary projects that isn't shitty.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Don’t remind me …. The doublespeak at my company ….. we had to use GitHub for the built in AI, but couldn’t even evaluate GitLab’s AI because it costs extra

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[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 4 points 1 week ago

Codeberg/Forgejo also have a simple button to migrate directly on the web UI

[-] SatyrSack@quokk.au 60 points 1 week ago

GitHub Has a Microsoft Problem. Is It Time to Look Elsewhere?

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Breaking: Water is wet. Read the in-depth analysis on why you should have gotten a boat years ago and why you should still get one now!

But wait, there's more: a gigantic colony of Microtards that don't understand why the water is wet, and they don't care!

More news at 11.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 44 points 1 week ago

Federated git forges can't come fast enough. Fuck gitlab for so willingly dropping the ball

[-] melfie@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago

Self-hosted Forgejo works well for my own use. My employer is moving to GitHub Enterprise where it’s a separate instance per company with certain infra shared. Should be a slight improvement, I guess, though probably not a bad idea to make sure internal tooling is built with the git forge being configurable. 😉

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I've been eyeing Gitea. Do you have any reason for using Forgejo that I might overlook Gitea in favor of it?

[-] melfie@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

I used to run Gitea and switched to Forgejo mainly because I prefer a community project over one run by a for-profit company. I never had any substantive complaints against Gitea during my time with it to be honest, but thought I’d get off of it before investing too much further in case it went in a bad direction.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

That is a solid enough reason and one I wasn't aware of. Exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to find out, thank you!

[-] uzay@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago

The transition of gitea to chasing profits was pretty messy too iirc and motivated the forgejo fork. Gitea lost a lot of good-will back then. Forgejo is also the base that codeberg runs on now.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Is your code free for others to do whatever the fuck they want to with it? : codeberg

Do you want to put certain restrictions (eg financial)? Gitlab

[-] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Codeberg doesn't allow you to use AI with your repos. Even if it is just writing your docs for you.

Radicle is decentralised though!

[-] vividspecter@aussie.zone 12 points 1 week ago

You can always self host forgejo, but yeah, codeberg is an opinionated place, I suspect primarily due to resource constraints. Not a github replacement and not really trying to be.

[-] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I do run a local instance but what I do is then replicate certain repos out to Github and Codeberg. (The ones I like to keep public)

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I don't think I have a codeberg going at the moment because I want to do CC4NC.

There's like some scripts I don't mind people making derived commercial works since they're fucking tiny, but other than that, I don't want people getting rich off my code.

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[-] PhenomenJan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Radicle is awesome, but having to create a new account for each device is a pain, especially if you want them all to have access to the same private repo.

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[-] nieceandtows@programming.dev 18 points 1 week ago

Yeah it was completely useless today.

[-] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago

Radicle https://radicle.dev/

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

I've used. It works well enough. They supposedly have CI but either it's not documented or nor ready, I can't tell.

And there's no way to get notifications of merge requests, comments or anything actually, so it serves well as a backup or private project host, but not much else, IMO.

[-] PhenomenJan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

I think it might just be that their documentation is dispersed, and sometimes hard to find. I haven't used the CI, so I can't comment on how well it works, but it appears to be in use: https://blog.liw.fi/posts/2026/radicle-status-quo-07/

Here's some docs on it: https://radicle-ci-broker.liw.fi/userguide.html https://radicle.network/nodes/radicle.liw.fi/rad%3AzwTxygwuz5LDGBq255RA2CbNGrz8

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[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean yes, Microsoft and slopcode probably plays a role, but it only got really bad once the LLM mass scraping started, for which I assume Github is also a major target.

And running your own public git forge is a real PITA these days for similar reasons.

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[-] mvilain@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago

Moved to codeberg.org when that Microslop VP took over running github. I have nothing on the platform but my account so I can look at other stuff on the site.

[-] _hovi_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Any alternatives with a good UI? Really don't like the ones for codeberg or gitlab tbh, and GitHub is bearable

[-] copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago

What do you find bad about Forgejo / Codeberg's UI?

[-] _hovi_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

For forgejo I'm actually not too sure - "feel" is vague but the best I've got, maybe someone more UI inclined has clearer thoughts on it. Or maybe I just need to get used to it. It's certainly much better than Gitlab imo.

[-] trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I could rant a lot about the GitHub UX, so here's just the fairly obvious stuff on the repository page:

Screenshot of the repository overview page. There's a lot of duplicated information.

Red arrows mean duplicated information or duplicated navigational elements.
Green arrow means why the fuck do I have to tell our customers to click a random link in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, in order to download our software?

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unpopular opinion, but most of that is duplicated information that makes sense to be duplicated because I'm not a machine that can scan the whole page and instantly get what I need.

Top right are action buttons, fork and stars on the center right let you see who else starred and forked the repo.

License information just makes sense to be in a repo summary, and it just happens that most license files are at the root and visible in the file tree.

I don't see the top level stuff, you probably see that because you're not authenticated, so github tries to "sell" itself for you.

I agree "releases" should be at the top though (it used to, and I use GitHub refined to bring it back), but having the latest one at a glance is nice and saved me a click many times.

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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

It's old Github UI

[-] starshipwinepineapple@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Well of the major options out there that's not github you're looking at gitlab, forgejo/codeberg, or sourcehut. Sourcehut is the most minimalistic UI so you may love it or hate it. Otherwise i personally would value open source over UI which is why i use codeberg.

[-] flubba86@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Honestly, for me the Forgejo/Codeberg UI is the best out there, I actually like it even better than GitHub. I think you just need to get used to it. If you had been using Codeberg the last 10 years and just discovered GitHub today, you'd take one look at it and say the UI is bad.

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[-] sonalder@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

We need decentralized forge such as radicle.dev to become more mainstream and people seeding tons of repo!

[-] alcea@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

Already migrated to gitea

[-] lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Am I the only one that needs to press F5 to get github to load after entering github.com in the browser? It only happen with github.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

I filled out an IT helpdesk request last week because I couldn't push any updates to GitHub. I was able to access the site, so I though my access token was retired since that happens every once in awhile.

Nope. It was GitHub. For some reason it couldn't accept my push despite the website still being up. And I didn't find out until the tech called the the next day and it worked when I tried to recreate it in front of them

[-] moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 2 points 1 week ago

Unicorn error!

But the big issue for me is the authwalls. I'll migrate when we have a good replacement on the fediverse, when PRs and issue comments can be made from different instances

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