I heard they got Stanley Kubrick to fake the landing, but he was such a stickler for accuracy he got them to actually go to the moon to film it.
Everyone talks about the fake landing but nobody ever talks about the fake sequel they released four months later
I’m not sure how he was in 1969(?) but by the time he made Full Metal Jacket in the 1980s(?) he was so afraid of flying, he had palm trees brought in to England rather than shoot on location in Vietnam. Which is why all the palm trees in that movie look dead as hell. So I’m guessing he would not have gone to the moon, but would have had moon craters brought to him. Which means someone would have had to go to the moon to get them. Therefore, we went to the moon. Checkmate atheists.
Or it was his Moon travels which made him hate travel. Either one works for me.
Special effects in late 60s:
2001: A Space Odyssey has very good effects
Of course it does. It's made by that guy who faked the moon landing and then beat up Olive Oyl
Wait what’s the Olive Oyl story?
They're referring to Kubrick's renowned intense treatment of his actors to evoke the emotions he wants to see, particularly Shelly Duvall in The Shining, who also played Olive Oyl in the live-action Popeye movie.
He kept Shelly Duvall terrified for almost that entire movie
This is one of my fave images of all time
They wanted to fake a moon landing and after analyzing cost they concluded that the cheapest option was to film on location.
After the big rocket the costs were mostly catering
CGI in 1982 was better:
Most people I've brought the moon landing up to think the moon landing was fake. I usually point out a few examples to explain away the their arguments. Also I add that thinking it was fake is a huge slap in the face to all the skilled people who made it happen.
I feel like I'm going crazy. But everything I've looked up are credible sources, unlike some stupid YouTuber pointing to the the flag and saying "there's no wind on the moon, how do you explain that sheep!"
They put a fucking pole through the top of the flag to keep it straight, because they also realize there was no fucking wind. A kindergarten could work out how to do that.
The real cover-up about the flag is so much more fun. The astronauts were sworn to secrecy for decades.
Then decades later, some scientists were taking high resolution photos of the moon that weren't quite good enough to see the flags themselves but did show the shadows of them. But they couldn't see a shadow for the Apollo 11 flag, and then NASA had to come clean.
When they took off from the Moon, Buzz Aldrin saw the thrust of the spacecraft blow the flag over. When he told NASA about it in the debriefing they told him "you can never tell anyone this."
Opinions of the guy aside, I recall it was Neil DeGrasse Tyson who made the argument that it simply is cheaper and easier to go to the moon than to fake it and maintain the coverup.
Like, we can't keep secrets for shit, but that's the one that stays kept?
CGI in 1991:
Jurassic Park came out in 1993 (can't help but use this as a point of reference), but this does look consistent with lower budget stuff, like that Canadian cartoon Reboot. Anyone else remember that one?
It's not that it's low budget, it's that it was fully CGI. It was a pioneer in 3d animation.
Also this is from Transformers and it is from the same Vancouver studio.
The gif? That's from terminator 2, not transformers, and is an incredibly well-executed effect for the time. It's also missing the part where the actual effect happens.
That's just a psyop, NASA and the CIA were hiding some of the world's leading stable diffusion models for the time in a secret underground Data center somewhere in the Nevada desert.
I thought that was under Cheyenne Mountain?
No, you’re probably thinking of the Stargate project.
But I thought the Stargate project was the US government's current big AI thing?
That’s to divert our attention from the actual Stargate project, which demands an immense amount of energy.
But I thought that THAT Stargate project had its own naquadah and naquadriah based generators for decades now?
They did, but for regular base operations I believe they continued to use the electric grid. Like the lighting, computers, HVAC, elevators, communications, workshops, medical equipment, etc..
I don't think so, I mean, it cost $2bn just to turn the lights on at that place! And that was 1995 2 billion, not hyperinflated 2026 2 billion!
True, but I’m only going on memory as I rewatch the shows every year, lol. 🫣 So at some point they mention only the gate and dialer use the newer generators.
The other base systems default to the original power grid and only in emergency go to the new generators. My guess would be tax reasons to keep the general public from thinking something is off with the books for the facility? Redundancy might also make sense. 🤔
Now imagine how CGI was when they flew to the moon in 1969!
The best argument against the moon landings being fake is the sheer amount of people involved in the Apollo project. Estimates go up to 400'000 people (with different levels of involvement). If it had all been fake, someone would have blabbed by now.
Actually the best argument would be that the Soviets didn’t raise holy hell about it being fake.
Apollo 11 was able to be tracked by radio the entire trip to the moon. The radio transmissions and The television broadcast was unencrypted over plain radio. I’m sure the Soviets were able to verify the entire mission in real time. If there was even a hint that the moon landing was fake, the Soviets would have been throwing it in the US’s face the instant it happened.
You don't think your conspiracies big enough. Obviously the Soviet Union was in on it, something, something New World Order. Nobody knows what's to be gained for whom, but that is what conspiracy theories are made of.
One of my favorite quotes is "The only way three people can keep a secret is if two of them are dead", from some random western movie, but yes people love to blab.
Now imagine how CGI was when they flew to the moon in 1969!
CGI in 1988.
I can't remember where I heard this or of it is true, but apparently it would have cost significantly more money to deceive the public with a fake moon landing than it would have been to fund the mission. When I think about the effort they would have put behind this ruse it makes sense as I'm sure the media was all over the event and the fakery wouldn't have been isolated to a single broadcast.
I have had some sucess pointing out the USSR was tracking it and would love nothing more than to call out the US if they had faked it.
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So what you're saying is they not only faked the moon landing, they also kept these amazing computer graphics from us gamers all this time?
Truly monstrous.
I came for transforming monke robots, but what I got was the most kino character death out of all children's cartoons.
Counter point - Actually good CGI in 1993:
The entire moon is just CGI. Prove me wrong, go there and live stream from the moon to show you can really stand on it. I bet you won't.
I think you’re wrong.
Unless the t-rex was running it was a giant physical model. Likely in this shot zero to little cg was used. Hell I have the open matte version of the film where only digital shots are cropped, this one ain’t.
Additional counterpoint: granddad worked on Apollo and if it was all fake, lots of real world shit I’ve personally experienced wouldn’t make sense. Production and Design awards, call backs during Apollo 13, the secrecy etc…
I don't think it was fake at all, but I don't think I've ever heard a denier say it was cgi. They say it's a stage.
The Moon landing was staged, but Kubrick insisted on shooting on location.
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