I tried OsmAnd in the past, I paid for it and it's still installed in my phone, but I keep going back to Google Maps for "default" maps. OsmAnd is missing the Cycle Map layer of openstreetmaps.org and is not super useful in my case. And we all know Google Maps is very bad for cycling too, but it's good at finding places, so I just make my own route instead of using the four lane artery it suggested me to cycle on.

The exception is when I'm hiking or walking long distances and need to find/record my position on a map, relative to a pedestrian path or hiking trail. For this I've always used AlpineQuest. I don't know if it's made by Americans though. AlpineQuest also has the Cycle Map layer, so it's my second favourite map app, but I mainly use it when I'm in a big park, or not in a city.

Still, openstreetmaps.org with the Cycle Map layer is wonderful for planning cycling and hiking routes by yourself. Unfortunately it's just absolutely bad at making any kind of route by itself.

I've just heard about CoMaps recently. I also don't know if it's mainly American, but it's open source, community driven, and based on OSM data, which is important. It has adresses and seems like a promising alternative to Google Maps for my "default" searches, so I'm going to give it a try. However it's just an app and there doesn't seem to be a simple website matching the mobile experience, so I'm kind of guessing that I won't try it for long.

OsmAnd which is OSM-based has both satellite view (which you can also save for offline viewing if needed) and primitive public transport (good enough for dense cities with rapid transit). It's not easy to set up and get used to but if you're ok with computers, give it a spin.

Otherwise there's mapy, which also has those features but is much easier to use and more polished. Not FOSS though.

I've tried but I can't find shit on there, sometimes even when I directly paste the address. Magic Earth is still not as good but much closer.

If you combine this with the apple maps web beta you can get closer to the functionality of Gmaps.

I understand that both of these aren't as good for privacy as OSM.

Google is already kinda not available in china

Same, it’s nice, I like that the maps are offline… Google and Apple both have had me driving through stretches of white background because they don’t even bother to download your route.

Maybe I did something wrong but I used Comaps to go to a very big, very clearly marked government building and it directed me like, two blocks over even though the address was right. Any thoughts on that? Should I just use it more? This specific example was downtown in a very big US city, so maybe that's part of it?

While I haven't looked into it, OSM might also have a discussion up about adding the "lake america" label as a regional alternative name. They did that for a previous trump tantrum too.

However, I find that my feelings towards each organization depend on the intent behind the action. When OSM adds that label, it's being done for cartographic reasons and I don't mind that. When Google does it, especially this quickly, it feels like it's being done for appeasement reasons.

Also with Google, everyone in the US sees that name. Whereas with OSM, you would be choosing to use the trump tantrum labels.

People didn’t bother when The Gulf Of Mexico was changed, and that ones displayed globaly.

Really? https://lemmy.ca/post/39089906

I doubt very many people will care enough to change habbits.

Many might but likely not the majority of people, its still good to encourage so why downplay on a post trying to achieve that?

This is one of those “the second best time to plant a tree is today” situations for me.

I share the sentiment about people reacting differently, but I'm up for anything to reduce google's popularity. Time to advertise comaps and other foss ones!

https://wego.here.com/

loads very slowly for me. lots of people checking it out rn?

otherwise seems to work fine for me.