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Daddy needs a new pair of RAM!

edit: the fps are way better in smaller terminal windows with lower character count but then it's hard to make out the dice. D:

edit2: code here (expires in 2 weeks)

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AI killed like 10 whales for this.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago

One of my favourite things in the entire world is what I call "high effort shitposts". Running DOOM on absurd devices like pregnancy tests is the archetypical example I use when explaining this.

Well, congrats, because this is absurd enough that this makes the list too. You are ridiculous and delightful, and I am glad that you exist to create impressive horrors like this.

[-] mr_robot2938@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

How about DOOM on a 1956 vacuum tube computer?

Doom on the oldest digital computer in America

[-] lenabee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

this is fucking CONTENT, baby!!! Great work, honestly great code. This is an achievement.

[-] spacegoat@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Do you think God stays in heaven because he too lives in fear of what he's created?

[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

God comes over
creates some bullshit
stays in heaven
refuses to elaborate

[-] glizzyguzzler@piefed.blahaj.zone 37 points 3 days ago

Get this on the berg I wanna render my dice rolls over SSH stat

[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

When I opened the code I immediately scrolled to the bottom to see how many lines, and hell yeah. I read through it and I'm horrified, but I'm even more horrified it works. This is truly an chievement

Here it is running over SSH https://files.catbox.moe/qkwd4q.mp4 what more could I ask for, thank you for making this insane thing and sharing it!

[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

holy shit, I'm so flattered! Thank you for your kind support and encouragement!

It's crazy that it looks okaish right? quaternions, dude. I have implemented them in 3 projects and still have no fucking idea how they work.

Also, you can run it in --quality low if you're struggling with framerate. :)

[-] glizzyguzzler@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's insane how many features this has for being insane in of itself!

Edit: that was running on anemic "1 core" (1 very shared core) VPS, bumping it up to 4, hooboy do those dice fly

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[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

lol but it's not finished and everyone will see how stupid my code (and brain) is D:

[-] GeirGrusom@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

It's bash. Everyone is expecting nightmare code, and that's why it's fun!

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago

Cut yourself some slack. These days, most people would have just pasted LLM outputs

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[-] promitheas@programming.dev 9 points 3 days ago

My suggestion is do it. Its a cool project, and clearly there is interest from others who could contribute to the project by suggestions, bug fixing, or general collaboration, helping you learn. Just add some kind of disclaimer in the project that its not ready yet, and that youre still learning and it should be fine.

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I hope you change your mind.

Most people care about features, not the implementation.

Those who dislike your code are probably going to generally dislike others’ code anyways, so in a sense they don’t even need to see your code to already disapprove of it 🤷‍♀️

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[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 6 points 3 days ago

The only way to do it is to do it - me, 2026

Nah, but seriously, that insecurity is a disease that will actually make you produce embarrassing code. As soon as you feel confidence feedback take off, you will paint the functions brilliant once you de-neuter your inner codebeast. It wants to fuck. Let it.

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[-] oce@jlai.lu 34 points 3 days ago

I'm curious why it seems the time slows down at the end compared to reality? Because more computation is needed to check if it's a stable state?

[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

the final resolution stage was a huge headache and as you can see, one I didn't fully solve. Basically when the dice finally settle, particularly those with more sides, lots and lots of micro collisions happen in close sequence, each one having to apply friction and bounce back. As velocities come close to be rounded to 0, the bounce back effect and force of gravity no longer provide movement, but the final angle of the bottom face may not be fully settled on the floor. So basically if i don't ignore all these tiny collisions I get the frame rate drop you see and if I do, I can arrive at not fully settled states which can become ambiguous result-wise in, say, the 20-sided die.

[-] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Can you predict the resolution when it is close enough to settled? Worst case maybe have an algorithm that estimates the probability of each face ending up on top, and if one face is overwhelmingly more probably, choose it. Otherwise let it settle using your physics engine

[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I can easily check for when motion stops, but checking for when any particular face is both parallel to the floor and at the same level can be computationally expensive, particularly in the dice with more sides. What you're suggesting is likely a good idea, but I wouldn't know how to get probabilities without doing what I just mentioned. I'm sure there's an optimization i can do with this that I can't think of rn.

[-] Derg@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Cross products! If you take the cross product of two edges of a face, you get a perpendicular vector for that face. It shouldn’t be too bad to do 20 of those per frame to find if a face is level with the ground (cross product points straight up and/or down depending on how you’re doing them)… now I don’t know about the velocity/acceleration numbers (including rotation)…

[-] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

maybe just "if velocity < 0.01, find which side is closest to the floor, and if its within 1mm of the floor, take the opposite side (the one facing up) as the answer"

The only edge case I can think of is if it gets close to balancing on an edge, and then finally tips over to one side or the other. But in that case I don't think the face closest to the floor would be within 1mm of the floor, so it should still work.

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[-] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago
[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
[-] Aqivex@fedinsfw.app 14 points 3 days ago

@Pudutr0n@lemmy.world - You are certifiably insane. There are a million more effective ways to achieve this, with less resources... I LOVE IT.

[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

This is exactly the kind of flattery that truly touches my heart. <3

[-] farmgineer@nord.pub 22 points 3 days ago

Are you often described as a masochist?

It looks neat. I can't imagine wanting to write it in bash, though, heh.

[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

XD I am! And it was a complete nightmare. hahaha

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago

I just woke up and this is the first thing I see. Did I really woke up?

[-] adhocfungus@midwest.social 15 points 3 days ago

Absolutely insane. Part of me wants to see the source code, but part of me is terrified of how complex it must be. Plus I've only been writing bash for 20 years, so it would probably look incomprehensible to me.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 days ago

(hopefully) Constructive critique:

  • it looks like you're handling the dice in physics as a ball? Takes forever to settle at the end.
  • the throw has a visual glitch.
[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Thanks! Yeah, there's definitely A LOT of room for improvement. collisions are handled per vertex, but torque is applied to angular impulse to the dice as a whole (like a ball I guess). The settling is a huge issue, yes. the visual glitches I've been trying to get rid of but man... fix one and then another one pops up in a different case. Thanks for your critique. :)

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[-] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 16 points 3 days ago

Haha nice! How long did it take you? Integer-only math?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

All computer math is integer math if you go deep enough

[-] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

I'm sure implementing floating point directly in bash would work great

[-] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 17 points 3 days ago

I didn't have the patience to do it myself bit wanted to see just how complex it would get:

fp32_mul() {
    local a=$1 b=$2
    local sa=$(( (a >> 31) & 1 ))
    local sb=$(( (b >> 31) & 1 ))
    local sign=$((sa ^ sb))

    local ea=$(( (a >> 23) & 0xff ))
    local eb=$(( (b >> 23) & 0xff ))
    local fa=$(( a & 0x7fffff ))
    local fb=$(( b & 0x7fffff ))

    # NaN / infinity / zero handling
    if (( ea == 255 )); then
        if (( fa != 0 )); then
            printf '%08x\n' $((0x7fc00000))
            return
        fi
        if (( eb == 0 && fb == 0 )); then
            printf '%08x\n' $((0x7fc00000))   # inf * 0 = NaN
            return
        fi
        printf '%08x\n' $(((sign << 31) | 0x7f800000))
        return
    fi

    if (( eb == 255 )); then
        if (( fb != 0 )); then
            printf '%08x\n' $((0x7fc00000))
            return
        fi
        if (( ea == 0 && fa == 0 )); then
            printf '%08x\n' $((0x7fc00000))
            return
        fi
        printf '%08x\n' $(((sign << 31) | 0x7f800000))
        return
    fi

    if (( ea == 0 && fa == 0 || eb == 0 && fb == 0 )); then
        printf '%08x\n' $((sign << 31))
        return
    fi

    # Convert subnormals to a normalized significand/exponent.
    # m is a 24-bit significand for normals.
    local ma mb
    if (( ea == 0 )); then
        ma=$fa
        ea=1
        while (( (ma & 0x800000) == 0 )); do
            ma=$((ma << 1))
            ((ea--))
        done
    else
        ma=$((fa | 0x800000))
    fi

    if (( eb == 0 )); then
        mb=$fb
        eb=1
        while (( (mb & 0x800000) == 0 )); do
            mb=$((mb << 1))
            ((eb--))
        done
    else
        mb=$((fb | 0x800000))
    fi

    # Multiply the two 24-bit significands.
    # Product is up to 48 bits.
    local p=$((ma * mb))
    local e=$((ea + eb - 127))

    # Normalize product.
    #
    # ma*mb has binary point after bit 46.  If bit 47 is set,
    # product is [2,4), otherwise [1,2).
    local shift
    if (( p & 0x800000000000 )); then
        shift=24
        ((e++))
    else
        shift=23
    fi

    # Extract 23 fraction bits plus guard/round/sticky information.
    local frac=$(( (p >> shift) & 0x7fffff ))
    local guard=$(( (p >> (shift - 1)) & 1 ))
    local round=$(( (p >> (shift - 2)) & 1 ))
    local sticky=0

    if (( shift >= 3 )); then
        local mask=$(( (1 << (shift - 2)) - 1 ))
        (( (p & mask) != 0 )) && sticky=1
    fi

    # Round-to-nearest, ties-to-even.
    if (( guard && (round || sticky || (frac & 1)) )); then
        ((frac++))
        if (( frac == 0x800000 )); then
            frac=0
            ((e++))
        fi
    fi

    # Overflow -> infinity.
    if (( e >= 255 )); then
        printf '%08x\n' $(((sign << 31) | 0x7f800000))
        return
    fi

    # Normal result.
    if (( e > 0 )); then
        printf '%08x\n' $(((sign << 31) | (e << 23) | frac))
        return
    fi

    # Underflow into the subnormal range.
    #
    # At this point the normalized significand represented by
    # (1.frac) must be shifted right by 1-e positions.
    local mant=$((0x800000 | frac))
    local rshift=$((1 - e))
    local lost=0
    local halfway=0
    local low=0

    if (( rshift >= 25 )); then
        # Everything rounds to zero (unless the exact value is
        # sufficiently close, which it cannot be here).
        mant=0
    else
        low=$((mant & ((1 << rshift) - 1)))
        mant=$((mant >> rshift))

        halfway=$((1 << (rshift - 1)))

        if (( low > halfway || (low == halfway && (mant & 1)) )); then
            ((mant++))
        fi
    fi

    # Rounding a subnormal can produce the smallest normal.
    if (( mant >= 0x800000 )); then
        printf '%08x\n' $(((sign << 31) | (1 << 23)))
    else
        printf '%08x\n' $(((sign << 31) | mant))
    fi
}
[-] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 15 points 3 days ago

1440 multiplications per second on my computer!

[-] Womble@piefed.world 19 points 3 days ago

Wow, over a kiloflop!

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[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Jebus I don't even know how long I've been working on this. It started out as a way to teach myself bash, combined with my long obsession with rendering platonic solids. I previously coded a huge galaxy of hundreds of thousands of polyhedra you could fly across in python with opengl shaders and got to reuse/translate a lot of that code. The quaternion stuff I was grateful to not have to rethink that much again. haha. And yes, integer-only! Some params are "floating point" but i just parse them and add a bunch of zeroes so i can later do all the operations with equally blown up values of pi and trig stuff from "lookup tables" (case matching).

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[-] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

This is beautiful, and insane! But truly beautiful hahaha

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I'm viewing this thread in Lemmy and am unable to find any mention of a link to the source code or a demo, and I can't see the attached media (genetic image icon - is it an animated gif or a video?).

Based on all the comments, I appear to be in the [significant] minority. Would you mind posting a link to your source or demo or image/video?

[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

I haven't shared the source code yet because criticism is terrifying and I'm a horrible coder, but with the encouragement of the the community I might give it a shot. I don't even have a codeberg account yet though.

The post contains these two video links: https://files.catbox.moe/8rz9m7.mp4 https://files.catbox.moe/5d3n2k.mp4

If you still can't see them, maybe you can suggest a different hosting service, one that works for you? Or if you really really want the source code I suppose I could send it by DM on the meantime.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 12 points 3 days ago

There are millions of professional coders who couldn't do what you did there.

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[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

here's the source code. :)

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

3D dice rolling...ok...😐 ... in bash ...🤨 !?

PS: I remember seeing something vaguely like this recently...this you?

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