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[-] N3rdBrain@fedinsfw.app 126 points 3 weeks ago

It makes people who like clean dishes and to actually use cups sad lol

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 weeks ago

I saw this at chapters yesterday and there is no way to clean this thing:

https://www.indigo.ca/products/front-peekaboo-dragon-mug

There’s a hollow behind the dragin, you can’t fit a brush or sponge back there, it doesn’t look like you can put this in the dishwasher… so it’s going to be a bacterial breeding ground.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago

Just put it in your autoclave.

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[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

pressure wash?

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

I mean at least that’s not on the part of the cup you drink from.

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[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 11 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think it's a problem for the washing machine

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[-] shweddy@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago

How many holes does it have?

[-] chtk@feddit.nl 25 points 2 weeks ago
[-] volore@scribe.disroot.org 13 points 3 weeks ago

I'm guessing two, but I'm no topologist (though I have watched a fair bit of Cliff Stoll...).

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think it's three, the handle, the donut hole, then there's the hole/tunnel formed inside of the cup

EDIT: there seems to be some confusion around what i mean, maybe this illustration will clear it up:

[-] BigGovernment@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

At first glance I would have said two, the handle and the donut hole. After reading and considering your answer, I'm pretty confident you're right. The space between the tunnel formed by the donut hole and the mug itself forms an odd hole, but there it is.

Kudos, that's a fun little puzzle.

[-] jdr@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago
[-] jxk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't the 3-torus a 3-dimensional space? The surgace of this mug is two-dimensional. But I agree that it's a "torus with three holes"

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Okay, if a torus with a single patch of empty space on its surface is two holes, then this is three holes. But now I'm confused, because I don't know if that's true topologically. Otherwise, it's just a two-torus with a perforation on its 2-surface.


Edit: I've been informed by a topologist friend that this has two holes and that the lip of the mug is just a boundary.


Edit 3: Ignore the case below if the lip is a smooth curve. I had a brainfart when thinking through the loop contraction.


Edit 2: So to clarify, that's a boundary if the lip represents an abrupt transition to either side (i.e. if there's no "curve" into and out of the mug).

Since that's less realistic, let's assume that you can smoothly walk from the interior surface of the mug to the exterior and show that it isn't topologically a hole for that case either.

A picture of three rings around two holes and the purported "lip hole"

I've created a continuous loop around the two holes and the candidate "lip hole". These loops are embedded in the surface of the mug. You can plainly see that you can't contract the loop to a single point around the handle hole or the donut hole without crossing over the hole.

But now let's take our blue loop (the lip loop) and trivially contract it down to a point.

Four steps to contract the loop to a point

  1. Our loop is on the outside around the lip.

  2. Take the loop inside of the lip since this is still a smooth, continous surface. The loop is now on the outer wall of the inner mug.

  3. Now bring the loop down toward the bottom along the wall.

  4. Contract the loop to a single point at the bottom.

In this case, it isn't even a boundary anymore, and it provably isn't a hole.

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

If we ignore the handle, the torus with a surface opening can be deformed continuously into an 8 shape, the lip of the mug is not a hole, but you can go down the lip of the mug, around the tube in the middle, and back out, a fully enclosed path

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's three. The hole through the center makes a hole around it inside the mug. Your topologist friend took too quick a glance at this.

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[-] valar@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

~~Not a topological 'hole' but you can count it if you prefer~~

I was wrong, its three! Posted this too early this morning.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, they're right. Normally the interior of the mug isn't a topological hole as it only has the one "exit". But when you connect the surfaces for the center hole, it creates a third hole in the interior of the mug. The handle loop (1), the interior of the donut hole (2), and the exterior of the donut hole and the walls and bottom of the interior (3).

[-] valar@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Shit, you're right. I was thinking of a normal mug. So "adding the donut hole" actually created two holes.

[-] tjsauce@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I think only the main hole counts if we consider access to the inside. The donut hole is formed by, but does not penetrate the cup.

Not sure how the handle fits in, seing as it has no inner surface

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

How does the handle have no "inner surface?"

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[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago

It comes with a voucher for a free ambulance ride but in order to use it, you have to agree not to sue for genital injuries.

[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago

How much mold is in the bottom? Nobody knows

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

For anyone still on the fence maybe this helps

[-] spacehulk@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Varesti@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

That made it worse!

[-] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Aah, thanks that's really cool

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[-] runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago

Someone took BlenderGuru's tutorial too far.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago

Bacteria love this one simple trick...

[-] Up_dog@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

It looks like a mangled, prolapsed fleshlight that Jeffery dahmer would have.

[-] davetortoise@reddthat.com 9 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] muzzle@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Right? A normal mug has one topological hole. This one has 3. Surely that makes it 3 times as topologically interesting as a normal mug.

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

ah :) the cylinder, I see you are a redditor

[-] restingOface@quokk.au 8 points 2 weeks ago

the seitan belugas at twilight

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[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

if the topologist works as a dishwasher...

[-] Ramsesder13te@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

I think a topologist would love it.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago

When topologists say, a mug is a donut, this is not what they mean

[-] SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

I should call her

[-] Chl0r0f0rm_Angel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes, the sore throat mug

Nah, they love discussing holes in things.

Fucking perverts.

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