So the other day I asked what the Republican-lite supporters excuse for Democrats once again saving Republicans and then also voting to condemn socialism and now this.
So what's the excuse du jour for supporting fascism? Literally voting to punish speech here, what's the excuse?
I mean, don't vote for them...
But not voting for anyone else with a D by their name because of these asshats, is just going to let these asshats take over the party.
Most Americans don't get to vote in any election that has any of them on a ballot.
Counterpoint, if we don't vote for these D then we end up with an R in their district which is just worse in every way.
Women with funny laughs tend to.do this, it seems.
I’m guessing it’s not about fascist ideology, and more about those AIPAC paid vacations they’ve already packed their luggage for. Doesn’t change that they are a piece of shit, only if they have corn or peanuts.
Okay - I just made myself gag.
Brings to mind that saying about sitting for dinner with 9 Nazis right?
So people who refused to get up and leave (vote) when the Nazis barged in and took their seat at the table are just as culpable then.
Good to know.
Ah, I see you choose to be obtuse and dense as a fruit cake.
You mean the people who refused to get up and leave and then voted for fascism are just as culpable? Yes.
You mean a leadership that will do fuck all to punish these Republican-lite assholes for literally voting for Nazi policies are just as culpable. Yes.
The other members who left the table and voted no on this issue. No. For now.
They do this to fracture the Dem party. Keep your adversaries in disarray.
I mean, mine's up there and in general most hate that but he's still far better than a Republican in his spot.
Hopefully next time we have a primary challenger worth voting for because his challenger voted for trump. Yeah....
So I'll put up with him for another two years because while his Israel bullshit sucks it's the better of the two options in almost any other issue on the table.
And when does the whole "still better than nothing" stop being a viable option when you're still marching toward fascism with no meaningful resistance from the supposed opposition?
Honestly it's past time to stop voting for these Republican-lite, fascist enablers.
It's never not a viable option. Voting takes a whole five minutes. There's literally no excuse to not participate and minimize damage. Whether you decide to do more after that is what this should influence, not whether you vote. If you choose to not vote then you're just a useful idiot.
Abstaining is propaganda pushed by Republicans. I don't know if you actually believe the message you're pushing or if you just bought the bullshit they sold you, but if you actually believe it then you're only harming your own cause. There's a reason this message gets spread so much, and it's because it's paid for. The only thing abstaining does is makes you feel superior while, in reality, you accomplish nothing.
And you're the useful idiot that Republican-lite love. Vote blue no matter who, never think about changing the status quo, never hold them accountable for their actions. Just keep on swimming. They love their moderate do nothing useful idiots.
And abstaining from voting as a form of protest is a time honored tradition. But sure go ahead and provide proof that Republicans are pushing abstaining from voting. They're pushing propaganda about the security of voting to enact laws curtailing the right to vote, plenty of evidence for that. Honestly, you sound like conspiracy theory Republican with your bought and paid message speil, going to blame it on George Soros next?
As far as you state abstaining/protest voting does nothing, I believe it does depending on how it's done. We've certainly seen how it has changed politics with Ross Perot and how it lead to MAGA. We've seen how it affected things recently with Dearborn abandon voters and how their stance has accelerated saying fuck AIPAC.
No thanks to your moderate paradise of slow walking fascism, I'll consider acceleration and live with the consequences sooner rather than later.
Youre the useful idiot Republicans love. Congrats.
And, he knew you would vote that way. Good job!
Allowing yourself to be manipulated by a shithead in hopes of getting rid of them later is generally preferable to shooting yourself in the foot and ending up with an even bigger shithead
Oh look, Cuellar is being a sack of shit, what a huge surprise.
He really is the Fetterman of the House.
Yeah, he's shit but I mean, Texas. Not saying he gets a pass but, Texas.
Proud that my Rep, Melanie Stansbury is not on this list. I would have been shocked if she had been.
Upset that my rep, Auchincloss is. I knew he would be.
Really I'm more upset that he won by 50 points.
Damn. Mine's on the list (Panetta).
This one is the east side and full of republicans. Not surprising, but disappointing for Kim Shrier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington's_8th_congressional_district
She has been voting along AIPAC's lines for a while. Sadly she doesn't seem to have any serious challengers to unseat her. She is deffo a DINO.
Hmm; my rep's not on the list, but the one for a district adjacent to mine is.
Surprised resident shit bird Ed Case isn't on that list.
It doesn't look like it's passed the house? https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4795/text
The link on the page of the Roll Call just takes you to the link I provided, which states the bill has only been introduced and not passed.
There have been several actions such as including it with a group of other bills for consideration or sending it to committees.
I posted the roll call of votes. They voted, it passed. The progress bar is behind.
Now go read H. Res. 1499.
Yep, your right, I read the number wrong. The page is behind, the clerks page logged the votes today on the resolution. That's definitely my bad.
Either way. These people need voted out.
MGP of WA — what a surprise!!! /s
Hell yeah Minnesota winning again.
Excuse me to be naive, but since democrats voted against slavery abrogation, how can it be seen as anything else than a far-right party?
Republican are clearly far-rightists too, ok... but still...
In case you're genuinely curious and not trolling, I'll explain. Parties in the US are not fixed around a particular ideology or set of stances, but have changed frequently throughout history and often take completely opposite positions from their past iterations. Many historians like to divide US political history into eras called party systems to indicate when parties are roughly cohesive and when they go through major changes, and during the civil war era we were in the Third Party System. During the third party system the Democratic party's base was made up primarily of white southerners (though there were northern supporters as well) and after the civil war they fought against Reconstruction in order to uphold white supremacy (the only issue that united Democratic voters in the north and south at the time).
Though there isn't consensus among historians yet, many consider us to be in the Seventh Party System now, so as you can imagine a lot has changed since then. I'll let you do your own reading on that topic.
Thanks, it makes it more clear...
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