Switches to Graphene OS earlier this year when my old phone kicked the bucket. Super happy with the change!
Waiting for Motorola linux phone.
I own, and love, my samsung Fold7, so afraid im kinda screwed.
Cross that road when it happens. Likely, next phone purchase will be a lot more annoying.
I've been on Ubuntu Touch for a couple of months now! I'm enjoying it so far
I moved to GrapheneOS a few years back and dumped their services for an Immich server and proton mail
I too have been Graphene'd up for years. I'm slowly working on ditching the last few bits of Google, just about the only thing left is an old gmail that's tied to a bunch of accounts, which I might keep around as a forwarding thing for a little while yet.
What's the hardware? Pixel?
Yep started with a 7, now I'm on the 9. It has been great
Stuck with Samsung phone so it looks like I'm fucked
I own a Fairphone, so switching to graphene would be trivial. However, I think I will stick with the convoluted workaround they will implement. At least until I get tired of it.
I have a furilabs phone i got in anticipation of this... turns out no service provider supports it in my neck of the woods. Kinda fucked
Continue to not own a mobile phone as I have done since the 80s
I'm assuming, then, though, that you do have a computer, in order to receive emails and such. Too much in society is attached to having other stuff: mailing address, email, phone number, two factor authentication, running privacy violating software on Windows, etc...
If you've been doing it since the 80s, have there been eras that have really challenged your desire or whatever to not have a mobile phone?
Do you think life would be much easier if you did have a mobile phone?
Why do you not have a mobile phone?
Do you think other or younger people should follow your lead?
I'm so curious about your story. I've thought about it many times, and as much as I think the technology is super cool and amazing, I also really wish it wasn't all but legally required to participate in so many aspects of society. It makes me wonder where you're from and where you live and if you're American or not.
Probably find something else to pursue that doesn't require dystopian technology. I can't imagine that I would just sit there and despair over it.
Tell us what you come up with? If apple and android are out, it's gonna be sailfish or graphene on a thinning hw profile, right?
I think this will be the first and last time I got a flagship model. I'm going back to upper-middle range Samsungs, that still have the headphone jack. My 10+ years old ThinkPad is much better to use than my S23 Ultra, the only thing that is locked down is the WLAN card slot (really need to do that hack, I already bought the necessary tools for it).
Never bought an Android and never will because I saw this exact shit coming
So with apple locking hard way before android, now what are you proudly signall-uh, running, with neither of them as options?
I'm fairly happy with my Linux phone. Not too worried :P
Man I wish we could all agree to use the most superior date format:
YYYY MM DD
[Angry ISO-8601 noises]
That's Canada's standard.
Only because it's the global standard. This isn't our flag to wave, we're just in the sane majority here.
I would rather have a netbook with a cellular modem than a phone at this point. They are all 6" diagonal slabs of brain cancer.
Don't wait, do it now
GrapheneOS currently, I have decided this is the last I'll have though. Back to the landline when this one breaks/is locked out of the walled gardens
Landlines are all VOIP now unfortunately
Just enable the bypass now in preparation. Only took at second Google search:
Google provides a built-in "escape hatch" in the settings, though it is intentionally designed with significant friction to prevent social engineering attacks. [1] (https://keepandroidopen.org/), [2] (https://www.gadgets360.com/apps/features/how-to-bypass-android-24-hour-delay-and-install-third-party-apps-on-your-phone-11243027)
Unlock Developer Mode: Open your device Settings, go to About Phone, and tap Build Number 7 times.
Enable Unverified Packages: Go to Settings > System > Developer Options and scroll until you find Allow Unverified Packages.
Verify Intentions: Flip the toggle, confirm that you are not being coerced by a third party, and enter your device PIN or password.
Reboot: Restart your smartphone.
Wait out the Delay: You must wait exactly 24 hours. Google enforces this mandatory cooling-off period.
Finalize: After 24 hours have passed, return to the Unverified Packages menu to select either a temporary (7 days) or indefinite installation window.
Took too long for this comment to show up. It seems that too few people know this, which suits Google just fine, I assume.
It must be stated: Google is malicious! The language used here and elsewhere conceals the fact that: a) Google is a for-profit company with no morals (they work with militaries and surveillance-agencies to kill); b) they operate in a monopolistic manner; c) they're eroding control of your personal-property.
This is just another move by Google to consolidate control over the AOSP. It doesn't matter that this convoluted sequence can temporarily 'bypass' Google's wishes--in fact I would state this is clearly worse. Removing the ability to install non-Google-endorsed software on your own private-property could be illegal. This is perhaps the only thing they could do to prevent lawsuits, only they've made it so asininely convoluted that only 0.01% will actually complete the process that it should be illegal monopolistic behaviour. American courts have absolutely failed everyone by allowing this rampant malicious behaviour to be the norm in American-software.
Google's Android already created friction for installing software outside their ecosystem. There is no justification for this behaviour. It cannot be defended. Stop following their market-speak. This is belligerent and malicious behaviour!
To put a finer point on this: Google is charging a recurring fee to anyone who wants to distribute software to phones--Android-phones. If you have a need to distribute software to your organisation's mobile-computers you now need to pay a recurring fee to Google, or... jump on one foot, spin around, touch the ground and hope Google doesn't bully you further. Oh, and you have to do this dance personally for all 438 mobile-computers you manage. The absurdity of the situation is appalling! The fact you have users defending--and that is what these sort of responses are doing: defending one of the most profitable companies in existence--"oh, just do the dance now so it won't inconvenience you later".
The "escape hatch" is down that corridor, to the left, left, right, left, left, up, right & behind the book-case; take the stairs up, down five flights; depart at Washington D.C. and on arrival you'll see a button. Press it. It might not do anything.
Fyi mine was under "apps from unverified developers" in developer options.
Mine was also named "Apps from unverified developers". However, I'm not sure it actually got applied when I did it just now. Pressing on that quickly flashed something on the screen, but it disappeared before I could see what it was. I didn't get to flip a toggle nor enter the PIN. Pressing "Apps from unverified developers" again doesn't do anything now (not even the quick flash from the first time).
Appreciate any help!
EDIT: I restarted my phone just in case it did work, and checked again, the option is just gone. I'm unsure if this means something went wrong, or if it means it did work, and I'm currently in the 24 hour cooldown period.
I'm on lineage for now. But android as a whole isn't safe anymore
android 8.1 fur me >:3 this phone probably has at least 10 CVE's I'm sure of it
The package (com.google.android.verifier) will be introduced on devices running Android 8 or higher, granting Google the ability to block the installation of unverified apps.
I switched to GrapheneOS soon after the Pixel 8 came out, so ~2.5 years ago. DeGoogled last year. DeAmerican'd as much as possible this year.
I'm hoping Android getting locked down will motivate more people to work on Linux for mobile devices.
Going to have to try out postmarket soon, but want to find a job irl before then.
I am on grapheneOS.
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