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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Not only can it end but it's clear to me at least that it's currently ending.

[-] weps@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

learned English for nothing

switching to Chinese now

[-] distal@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Wo de didi hen xiao

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 91 points 5 days ago

It’s not hard to imagine, and I think it’s time for that. I say this as an American citizen. This country does not deserve to be the dominant empire. I really don’t know who does though.

[-] QuietGenesis@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

I think we, humans globally, should try for no dominant empire. I think if we all get together and think really hard, we can come up with a better system than "whichever group has the most guns and money gets to do whatever they want and take whatever they want, whenever". It just never ends well. Or middles well. Or begins well! It's a bad system for most of the people, most of the time, inside and outside of the dominant empire du jour.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago

Getting rid of the bullshit "veto" power of some countries in the United Nations would be a start.

I think we should start a world government from scratch. A global, grassroots, democratic fellowship of people, operated locally and cooperating globally. All persons are considered members, and they can assert their membership by joining a local group or starting their own. We recognize the other power structures in the world; the governments and the corporations and the religions. We may even belong to some of them, this fellowship is not exclusive.

Unfortunately I haven't figured out how to define membership, or verify the integrity of votes or member identity, or implement a functional judiciary, so this is more of a long-term project. But I think long-term, humans need to figure out how to settle our differences without killing each other, and I don't trust the existing power structures to willingly give up their authority. It has to be bottom up, and every one has to have a voice.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

No corporations they are not people no matter what Americans think. They well just be companies and do not get person hood or personal rights.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

You're nor wrong, but good luck trying it.

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[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago

I think for decades the US empire was seen as the lesser of 2-3 evils, the others being the USSR/Russia and China.

Now the US has gone the way of Russia, so China is the next logical answer, with Iran coming out of the current conflict as a major world power in it's own right.

What we're seeing is the logical conclusion of decades of having a sense of supremacy in the USA. Dipshits in this country bought into our own hype, thought we were invincible, and are still in denial that its all crashing down, and that its their fault.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 5 days ago

Now the US has gone the way of Russia,

America today is only somewhat more evil than it was, say, 20 or 16 years ago. The "lesser of X evils" thing has always been bunk.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago

we are entering into a multipolar era without a dominant empire. don't let the us sabotage it.

Haha I don't think Xi agrees with that assessment.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

lmao, the geopolitics understander walked into the comment section.

what do you think BRICS is even for?

I trust that your opinion on BRICS is much more confident than mine. You can spare me the proof.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

as someone actually living in a brics country, yeah.

i trust your western opinion of it is not racist at all. but ill let you out yourself if you want to.

As we Americans have so thoroughly demonstrated, the most confident opinions of the international workings of imperial powers usually come from the people living within those power structures. It's nice to see that that self-confidence isn't a uniquely American trait.

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[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

Its not? Americans are just very very much committed to the bit. They have to be, other wise what was it all for?

The vast vast majority of humans are watching it happen, and have expected it for years.

[-] peacepath@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

You may check about the “Late Bronze Age Collapse” if you want a hope ;

And or remember it was as hard to imagine the USSR collapse from a 1988 point of view.

[-] pammyfromthesticks@mander.xyz 29 points 5 days ago

My whole arse life has been a decline aloneside the diminishing returns as the boomer fools gobble it all up and resent us. It is not hard to imagine I wish I was never born. Abortions for all.

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[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

Hard to imagine? I've been living it real time for 25 years. Its just speeding up.

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[-] LouNeko@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

First, because a nation with a nuclear arsenal ia not going to be allowed to collapse.

Second, don't think the US as a country, think of it as a corporation, because that is essentially what it is. Corporations don't collapse, they get bought up by the highest bidder, their assets liquidated, their workers let go without compensation.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 34 points 5 days ago

First, because a nation with a nuclear arsenal ia not going to be allowed to collapse.

I mean, the USSR pulled it off.

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[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not allowed by who to collapse? Corporations only exist because the nation state says they do, and the nation state only exists because the people collectively acknowledge that it does.

Billionaire class seems, isolated for decades in their bubbles, seem to have convinced themselves that their power and wealth exist independent of little things like governments and peasants, and yeah that may seem true because they currently have total control over the state.

But if they really actually do end up causing the nation-state to collapse (which they seem to be trying to do) they'll find out pretty quickly how wrong they are.

Hopefully something better will rise in it's place but I kind of find a little solace knowing the billionaires and their minions aren't going to live to see it.

I think they all know how this kind of thing ends, they just all think they're clever enough to grab what they can and get out with their loot right before it's too late.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

The USSR collapsed and they had Nukes.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Because:

  1. Mutual defence pacts, world bank lenders, and trade organizations are not empires, the USA has been giving away territory for many decades.

  2. A shallow understanding of history is that the USA has only just begun to decline and could take more than 50 years of steadily worsening to see any uprisings or collapse.

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