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They've been pumping this bio-hacking startup on the Orange Site (TM) for the past few months. Now they've got Siskind shilling for them.

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm only interested if the bacteria is diamondoid.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 11 months ago

* schwing *

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 11 months ago

Emma frost cosplayers are very interested.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 4 points 11 months ago

S/chompers/CHONpers

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like that instead of a study to back up their project, they have... one guy! Who tried it a month ago!

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Where we're going... we don't need clinical trials!"

As always with rats you get call-backs to more or less bad SF. In Varley's Steel Beach, the universal AI keeping everyone "happy" on the Moon invents a nanobot that cleans your teeth and gives your breath a minty fresh flavor. The leader of la Resistance naturally hacks it to disable it, no Man is gonna prevent me from having filthy teeth!

Also in on of Paul McAuley's short stories, the main character reflects on the total destruction of the Earth's ecosphere, which was caused by a genetically modified perfect coffee plant which took over all of life.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Idle thought: the idea of having a mint taste in my mouth (and on my breath) every day sounds like one form of hell

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Chewing gum fans may want a word.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 11 months ago

One of these is by choice Another of these is by proposed irreversible microbiome fuckery

We are not the same

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In the same way you don't taste your mouth all the time you would stop tasting and smelling it.

Neurons downregulate under constant exposure, which is why people at cons aren't constantly disgusted at how unshowered they are.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 11 months ago

Someone tell Aella her neurons are downregulating, maybe she’ll start showering again

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I thought this looked kind of interesting and not especially grifty apart from the usual anti-FDA narrative up until

The plan is:

Phase 1: (January 2024) Sell to biohackers in Prospera for $20,000.

By good luck, Prospera will soon be hosting a two month super-conference of biotech and crypto entrepreneurs/enthusiasts.

whence my eyes did an uzumaki. And also Aela is somehow involved, apparently.

Give them the benefit of a doubt, sure, maybe they are pandering this hard to an audience that self selects for gullibility and cultbrain and against consumer protections strictly for the greater good, merely accelerating what should have already happened if it weren't for those meddlin' kids at the FDA.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

By good luck, Prospera will soon be hosting a two month super-conference of biotech and crypto entrepreneurs/enthusiasts.

Am I a Bad Person for hoping this is also a super-spreader event?

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 8 points 11 months ago

Literally BioShock.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 11 months ago

benefit of the doubt

It isn't just cultbrain, but also a big dose of science fiction and tech hopium. A decade+ ago Lepht Anonym gonzo biohacked themselves to have magnets in their fingers, and this (together with some other science media and science fiction media) set off quite a wave of biohackers. This is just the tail end of the more speculative part of that wave. ('biohacking' (bit nebulous term) can have some good results when people learn how to homebrew hormones or insulin, so don't throw out the meds with the bathwater and mint breath baby)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 11 months ago

to be fair, absolutely every person (a) in Prospera (b) who would pay $20k for this absolutely deserves to

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I remember this... wasn't this on old Sneerclub?

I think the consensus was, you still need to brush your teeth to avoid gingivitis, which is at least as big a deal for dental health as caries.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's from today's acx, apparently they offered free samples to the siskind household.

edit: this is not sarcasm.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 11 months ago

e/acc where the E stands for “extraction” and acc still means accelerationism.

Between this and no showering, Aella et al. going for that Low% bathroom speedrun. We should pitch a “biohacking” startup that is just adult diapers.

Also “defying cavity” is too good for siskind to have written it.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Phase 1: (January 2024) Sell to biohackers in Prospera for $20,000.

Huh? oh. This prospera. https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/prospectus-on-prospera

Does anyone have any updates on wtf is even going on there? Is it actually the libertarian utopia that I was promised? Or is it just a place for people with nice comfy remote jobs to exploit cheap Honduran labor to live large.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you have guessed correctly. Honduras is trying to kick out all the libertarian charter cities, but Prospera has Thiel backing and is clinging on for dear life.

[–] m@blat.at 10 points 11 months ago

@dgerard Thiel and Andreessen. I love the way that as soon as the Hondurans started saying mean things these proud libertarians went crying straight to the US State Department.