My problem with Ubuntu is the way snaps are so closely tied to the distro. If they were optional, I would have just stuck with it. But I also like Mint anyway. It's just good.
My complaint is that Ubuntu is flirting with becoming proprietary software. Don't get me wrong they're nowhere near closed source or such but still.
That and they have some mechanics that feel counter intuitive to me. (But that's personal taste)
I'd choose mint then. Just because it has a more "traditional windows" (don't think about 11, don't think about 11,.....vom) styled flow to it.
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Ubuntu is fine, especially for a new user it's usually widely supported and has the most resources available.
I can't stand Gnome, though. I'd very much recommend going with Kubuntu.
Yes Ubuntu is a solid distro, except if you are a hater. Gnome is not suitable for me as a mouse user. Keyboard users like it though. So I use Kubuntu, as it has the Plasma desktop. Which works really well.
Ubuntu has ads in the OS, mint dosnt.
Installed mint on my parents laptops so they didn't become e-waste when Win11 came out. They have no issues.
Being new(ish) to Linux since that time and I found that the main distortion are better than their sub "flavours". For me anyway. I didn't like Mint LMDE or Kubuntu etc.
I tend to agree that the main distribution is better than it's "sub-flavours", but by that logic you should be using Debian, not mint/ubuntu
Linux Mint Debian Edition
I prefer Mint over Ubuntu because of the default desktop environment. Also, in Mint you can unintall apps directly from menu with right-click-uninstall.
Debian with cinnamon.
Between those two, I would go with regular Debian, or Mint LMDE if it has to be one of the two.
Debian is much better about providing a reasonably updated desktop experience these days.
As for Ubuntu… Their engineering is bad, and they’re shady. They push their solutions over standard stuff, and their solutions are conveniently setup to allow them to close source the code if anything ever reaches wide adoption or are proprietary from the beginning.
Fedora 😀 But seriously... Just install one and if you don't like it, install the other, it's free, it's easy and you will never go back 😊
Fucking love Fedora, it's my main squeeze.
But I have noticed something. If someone says "I love gnome" then they get the (playful) shit talkers, but if you say "I love Fedora" people are like "ah, an intellectual" haha
Really? I find that Fedora is so popular nowadays that most of the reactions are similar to your first sentence. 😀
The only real issue with Ubuntu is it uses Snap app store instead of Flathub app store.
Flathub has more apps, is faster, and has some minor security improvements. Linux Mint uses Flathub.
HOWEVER, you can add Flathub as additional source in Ubuntu app store app, and use Flathub exclusively.
In that case, no real difference between Ubuntu and Linux Mint other than UI.
Also Snap backend is a proprietary crap, unlike flatpak.
Another problem though is the best Flatpak store Bazaar's Flatpak version is broken due to Ubuntu apparmor. There are workarounds but they don't really seem to be doing much about it. There's a deb version in the repos but it is currently very out of date as its a newer app with fairly active development
Mint is based on Ubuntu LTS (long-term support) releases, unless you go with LMDE which is based on Debian. There is not a major technical difference but there are political differences between the projects.
The main reason to go with Mint instead of Ubuntu is if you prefer Cinnamon over GNOME as I do, and want a distribution built around the Cinnamon desktop environment.
Use whatever feels comfortable. Both are fine. People are complaining about micro annoyances that should not really affect you at first.
When you get comfortable with Linux, you'll also get to pick sides in micro battles like KDE vs Gnome, vi vs emacs, systemd vs sysv, flatpak vs snap and all the other wonderful my-side-is-better-than-yours fights.
micro battles like KDE vs Gnome
I don't think that's a small thing for someone new to Linux.
I prefer Xfce over MATE, KDE, and Cinnamon because I use old computers. I wouldn't recommend modern GNOME.
systemd vs sysv
Most of systemd-less distros use openrc, dinit or runit, sysv is mostly dead nowadays. Some distros still utilize it tho.
flatpaks are objectively better though.
Start by trying the desktops (mainly KDE, Cinnamon, gnome...), which are very different, and see which one you prefer. You can try them online.
https://distrosea.com/select/ubuntu/
https://distrosea.com/select/linuxmint/
https://distrosea.com/select/kubuntu/
If you click for cinamon go mint. If you click for KDE go Debian KDE or kubuntu If you click for gnome go Ubuntu.
The rest will become clear later on.
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Ultimately, switching to Linux is preferable, regardless of which distro you choose, from an open source/FOSS mindset. I'm not a super techy person, and made the initial switch due to philosophical reasons and a deep, deep dislike of Windows.
Ubuntu catches a lot of heat for making controversial decisions that go against the beliefs of the FOSS community, such as proprietary app packaging with snaps, and back in the day straight up putting ads for Amazon in the os.
Mint is the golden child, mostly because it is directly based on Ubuntu, so it keeps 99% of the convenience and ease of use that Ubuntu is famous for, while removing the more controversial elements.
There is also LMDE, mint based directly off of Debian. Debian is the distro that Ubuntu, and many others, is based off of. It has a reputation for being very solid, but slow to adapt and offer new features. It is the safe, reliable choice, but "boring," so people fork it, and make newer more "exciting" distro from it. So Ubuntu is based on Debian, mint is based on Ubuntu. Linux mint Debian edition (LMDE) is based directly on Debian.
Mint's big thing is cinnamon, it's desktop environment.
Desktop environments are where I think most newbies should actually be spending their time considering, instead of distros.
You can change the DE on pretty much anything, but some play better with some distros than others.
Cinnamon is very windows like. It is customizable, recognizable to a Windows user, and makes the transition from windows easier.
Gnome, and gnome based DEs, like what ubuntu uses, are more Mac like. Flowy, opinionated, and visually quite modern.
Kde plasma is more similar to Cinnamon, and is the Mac daddy of customization. Wanna do a thing? Likely, Kde will let you or you can brute force it and get it done.
Personally, I am a subby little soyboy who wants Daddy to tell me what to do, so I fucking love gnome. I love the look, I love the feel of it, and the thing I love most is that, when I first made the switch, it wasn't windows. It was different, and that was fun and let me feel like I had really made a change, and that's what for the Linux switch to stick after more than a decade of going back and forth.
My actual advice for a distro is Fedora with gnome, and few extensions. But realistically, try mint, try Ubuntu, try whatever, but spin up a virtual machine and specifically try out different DEs (there are a bunch that I didn't mention) and see which one you like. The distro is secondary, especially for a beginner
Ubuntu is fine. When you get your PC, you can see for yourself and decide. If Ubuntu just works for you, stick with it, if it is a bad experience, try another GNU/Linux distro. Be aware though that the back end of the appstore in Ubuntu is proprietary/closed-source/nonfree/bad.
ubuntu makes controversial choices. Mint is explicitly user friendly, and its debian edition is like a bike with training wheels, getting you debian with extra "niceties".
LMDE (Linux mint debian edition) is, from my POV, the gold standard for noob distros. Ubuntu is explicitly like a tricycle but LMDE is like a bike with training wheels. You can eventually take them off for debian next time you change OS with less problems, if you want. I going from LMDE + Cinnamon to Debian + KDE shouldn't be an issue.
Pick any distro and just start trying to live your life in there. A lot of beginners, including myself, will distro hop on look and feel. Ubuntu looks neat or Mint is more like windows. Elementry OS has that glossy vibe. Which is all a ton of fun, but look and feel goes out the window when you find out that program you need for work is packaged as an RPM but not DEB and now you gotta install it from source. And don't get me wrong. Always tinker, research and discover solutions. I'm just saying as you get more experienced, the distro hopping decision becomes more focused on ease of use rather than look and feel. So save yourself some time and just focus on using whatever distro you installed. The sooner you start trying to live in a distro the sooner you see what works out of the box, what takes some tinkering, and what is just way harder than it needs to be. As you do research on the issues you run into you may find another distro is better suited to your workflow.
I have some systems with newer hardware that would probably work fine on Debian, but drivers aren't native and it's going to require installing from source/recompiling a newer kernel and troubleshooting for an hour or a day or days lol. In these cases it is easier to install a distro that already has the driver packaged in its repo ready to go.
I will say most of those issues lead me to and have been resolved by Fedora. But I still have a couple systems where Ubuntu is just easier for what those systems are doing because it has specific drivers ready to go easier than Fedora.
If you read this and are over there wanting the complete opposite experience to tinker with everything and have it be as hard as possible... See Alpine linux, which I will master someday lol.
When Windows was my primary OS, I always used to lean towards Mint over Ubuntu on my laptop. Ubuntu never seemed to click for me and I'd revert back to Mint each time. Then in April 2025, I installed EndeavourOS as my daily driver and have really liked it. I don't miss Windows now.
It's really a personal preference. Download some LiveCDs and try them all, lol.
Honestly, each has a different feel. You just have to get in there and see how it goes. When you land on the right one, you will feel it.
Ubuntu is fine, though with the recent rewrite of coreutils I’d be concerned about stability and bugs. That said switching distros is pretty easy, trying other distros in a VM is easy too. I always keep my data on another disk so it’s never affected if I break something. I recommend Mint (LMDE version) and Fedora Desktop with whatever desktop environment suits you.
Ubuntu is the only distro I recommend against. Too much shitfuckery from Canonical. It's basically the Windows of Linux distros. I recommend Zorin to new users.
When you said it's the windows of Linux it reminded me years ago it included ads for Amazon. I wonder if they still have ads of some sort.
It’s basically the Windows of Linux distros. I recommend Zorin to new users.
... which is basically the self declared windows and not only is it corporate, it's also paid
Ubuntu is fine. Mint is fine. If you have a newer device id pick ubuntu over mint. Its a matter of preference. If your next PC comes with ubuntu use that and see how you like it. If you dont try out mint, try out fedora KDE as well.
Both are fine. Is it just a matter of preference on certain decisions.
Ubuntu is fine, people's objection to it is largely ideological. For a band new user you probably wouldn't notice. Ubuntu also has a more modern desktop than Mint, and a much larger user-base and therefore much more guides and support, though Mint is based on Ubuntu so it's probably not that different.
The big thing with Ubuntu is that you are sort of at the behest of whatever Canonical want. They have a track record of pushing their own way of doing things and not really giving a damn whether or not users like it. The big one is Snap, their attempt at a universal app packaging pipeline which uses a proprietary backend. Snap does have some benefits over flatpak from an engineering standpoint, but many dislike them. If you feel ideologically opposed to Snap, just use Debian, it's easy enough to install these days. It is also worth noting that Snap can be removed from a fresh install pretty easily.
My only issue with Ubuntu is that snap feels fairly clunky. That's why I moved to fedora. Also, definitely worth looking at pop os. But, all of them come down to personal preference
I think these days, Linus Torvalds moved to fedora
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