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[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I'll ask the shareholders, that's a good trick!

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Its easy and fun to dunk on them. And rightfully so. But I've never been genuinely tempted by tens of millions of dollars before. I can't imagine it would just be "one big moment", more like slowly boiling a frog.

I will always hate the prequels for this. George needed help but was too proud to ask. We couldve seen how strong the pull of the dark side could be.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, sadly I’ve had to deem everything but the first, that Mrs. Lucas held together, as non-canonical fan fiction.

Would have been interesting to see it as a true trilogy and not something spawned from an atomic explosion of money.

[-] eah@programming.dev 32 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

And decades later they're multibillionaires who hold all the traits of multibillionaires. They're into transhumanism, the singularity, effective altruism, microdosing, owning your own private yachts, planes, and islands, donating to conservative candidates, and moving their assets to avoid paying taxes. Complete scum. Utopia isn't going to happen when all your AI shit is making creative people miserable.

Study math at university, start a search engine company using your sick math skillz, become the evil businessman you presumably hated when you started out, and then use your wealth to fund AI that will make nobody want to study math at university. Pulling up the ladder. What a world.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Naomi Klein is right, being a billionaire or even a millionaire, changes who you are fundamentally.

If money is power, and power corrupts absolutely, then money corrupts absolutely.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

It's economic carcinization, eventually everyone becomes Mr. Krabs

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[-] BilSabab@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

its kinda funny in hindsight.

[-] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 48 points 20 hours ago

Their later solution to this problem is interesting: for a long time the search and ad teams were entirely separate. The search team had one mission and that was to make Google search as good as possible. Selling ads and making money was someone else's task. The old reasoning of "Make a really good product and then the profit will follow". This is how Google search was able to outcompete all it's competitors.

Then 2019 rolled around, the Google Ads team failed to meet objectives, and they blamed Google search for their failure. Google's solution was to make search worse, reduce the visual difference between ads and results, and eventually put the ads guy officially in charge of search. The goal of Google search had changed from making the best search engine possible to optimizing ad views and clicks. This is one of the best documented stories of enshittification imo.

Good reads about this:
https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/
https://codingwithcody.com/2025/10/search-is-dead-google-killed-it/

[-] content_educator_94@thelemmy.club 12 points 17 hours ago

Didn't know this until you wrote your comment but 2019 is definitely when shit fell off so hard I rethought using Google at all

[-] krisevol@lemmus.org 1 points 12 hours ago

That sounds about right. I haven't used Google search is half a decade. Same with chrome.

There are so many better services out there today I'm surprised Google is still something people use

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

I think they also discovered they were charging companies for all the blocked ads nobody saw, and were about to get sued into oblivion, so they refunded a token amount, and threw ads into overdrive.

[-] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 16 hours ago

I think ads were never paid by the dished out links, but by the actual opens. sometimes even only by the click on it (impression vs click).

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[-] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

TIL and wow

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[-] plyth@feddit.org 9 points 15 hours ago

Disney+ changes subscriber agreement to allow ads on every plan

https://feddit.org/post/35666466

If you can't opt out of ads then they are not only there to sell more products.

[-] krisevol@lemmus.org 3 points 12 hours ago

You should only support staying services that have an ad free plan so ars don't take over. I'll still pay for and ads free plans i can subscribe to and cancel the ones that don't provide this service. But as well know consumers as a whole won't do this. Look at YouTube premium. It's amazing, cheap, and no ads, and you can share the keys with friends and family.

Yet no one wants to pay for it.

Just realize that consumers are not willing to pay for ad free plans. The future is grim.

[-] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

consumers are not willing to pay for ad free plans

I guess that, ironically, they don't advertize them well enough.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

While a noble effort, voting with your wallet means that those with the biggest wallets get their way.

We need legislation. We need us to be in power, and to put an end to capitalism superseding our democracy.

In the words of Mark Carney addressing the European Parliament a few days ago (and I paraphrase):

"We believe in a strong economy, not as a goal in itself, but as a means to create a good democratic society."

[-] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago

and to put an end to capitalism superseding our democracy.

George Washington and others were Capitalists. Capitalism bought you Democracy because the Capitalists didn't want to share with the king.

[-] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

Disney has never been on the other side of that.

[-] Cataath@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, Disney's origin story is as shitty as Apples: business man screws his creative partner, expunges him from the company's origin story, and declares himself the true visionary.

[-] TownhouseGloryHole@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Oh, like Tesla?

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago

it's funny that they talk about ads hurting search results because they literally became an advertising company that does shitty search on the side.

[-] griselbrandalf@reddthat.com 30 points 1 day ago

Some alternatives:

  • Duckduckgo (Bing with privacy)
  • Qwant (Bing with privacy, but building their own index)
  • Mojeek (pet favorite of the privacy community but small index, search often unsatisfying for me)
  • Kagi (apparently really good but paid)
[-] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 16 hours ago

I paid for kagi for a year or two. Problem (for me) is, they are very USA centric and offer less value to other regions. For region-independet search they were on par or better with google.

[-] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

That's my problem with DDG too, unless the query makes sense for the US it outputs mostly garbage. They don't handle localization very well, or at all.

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Not trying to pick on one thing but I guess I am focusing on it in my reply.

Am I the only person that thinks duck duck Go is no longer worth recommending?

[-] TwistedTurtle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago

No, it's not just you. DDG hasn't been very good in my recent experience. I bit the bullet and gave Kagi a try and it's been excellent. It's what I recommend now.

It's not free, but I'll gladly pay to ensure that I'm the customer being tailored to instead of the product being sold.

[-] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Yeah initially it felt silly to pay for a search engine, but I gave kagi a try and really like it. I could immediately turn off all ai shit. I can block websites that are ai trash or that I just plain don't like or I can just down rank a website so I'll see other results first. For example, I have the Minecraft fandom website downranked but not blocked so that if I'm searching for something that isn't documented on the Minecraft wiki then the fandom page will still pop up, it just won't be the top result ever

Also, I'm on the basic 300 searches a month and I've never hit the max despite feeling like I search a lot between my phone and computer

Edit: there's also a little indicator next to websites that have a lot of trackers and ads so you can avoid or block those sites if you want

[-] Cataath@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I've been using DDG since the beginning when it was an inferior product to Google, manly because of the bang! search feature (which replaced Yubnub for me) and for the privacy aspect. If a DDG search didn't give me good results, I could just add !g and see the Google results. It cut down my dependence on Google by about 75% at the time but only got better as the '10s wore on. By 2020 it was just a better search engine.

Since then it seems to be going through the same enshittification that Google went through, although they know that they live & die on their privacy feature and that seems to still be better. Instead, they have added the AI summary ("search assist" is not auto by default, so a basic search doesn't query the AI), prioritize a few of the top hits on the search (along with context results like wikipedia, dictionary, stock summaries, etc.), but the rest of the results on the first page appear to be paid ranking pages. Below that are related searches, and below that is the "more results" button that is the hits that used to come before the paid ranking pages.

Even though it seems to be sliding into the same patterns as other commercial search engines, I still think it is better than most of the alternatives. I still set it to default some from the browser I can do things like search for RAM on NewEgg ("!ne 16gb crucial ram") and go directly to that page instead of going to a search results page that may or may not be a sponsored link that takes five seconds to load because of spotty wireless & all of the 3rd party elements having to load.

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[-] kazerniel@piefed.world 14 points 22 hours ago

There's also Ecosia that lets you choose between Bing and Google as result provider. (And for a while now they have been working on a European Web Index with Qwant to replace the US sources.)

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[-] Tja@programming.dev 16 points 1 day ago

Shouldn't "paid" be a a huge advantage, if we are complaining about advertising?

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

Main problem with "paid" is that you have to log in for searching = all your searches can be tied to your payment into / identity. That's a big no-no.

[-] crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub 8 points 17 hours ago

Not to mention Kagi is based in the U.S. Whatever privacy promises they make are bullshit.

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 196 points 1 day ago

Brin now actively interfering with elections to avoid being taxed. You are the face of evil, Sergie.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Spending over a hundred million to avoid chipping in to the public purse

A single greedy man pissing away 5% of the total tax revenue of Wyoming into lobbyist pockets just to not pay for public education, health & infrastructure that would benefit people

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