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submitted 19 hours ago by ratrace@lemmy.zip to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Cross posted from https://lemmy.zip/post/71891248

Cross posted from https://scribe.disroot.org/post/11438915

cross-posted from: https://scribe.disroot.org/post/11438860

Here is the podcast about this investigation.

Archived version

On a narrow country road outside Canberra, I'm driving a BYD Shark 6, the hybrid ute loved by tradies and even a cabinet minister.

But while I'm at the wheel, I'm not the only one in control; a hacker has access to the car.

As the 2.6 tonne ute rounds a bend, he gets to work.

...

With the stroke of a key, he kills the headlights, plunging me into darkness.

The attack is not a total surprise. The Shark has spent the past two weeks with Dan Hreszczuk, a cybersecurity expert who specialises in cars.

His task was to hack the vehicle and find out what could be seen and done remotely by the Shark's Chinese manufacturer.

"It was easier than we were expecting," Hreszczuk says.

...

EVs, with all their sensors, cameras and microphones, hoover up and spit out vast amounts of data. Experts say that data poses a greater risk in the hands of Chinese EV makers because they can be compelled by the country's national security laws to co-operate with authorities.

...

Hreszczuk, the co-founder of Fortify Labs in Canberra, was stunned by the BYD Shark's lack of cybersecurity.

"The access we took advantage of didn't even have a password," he says.

"It's a little bit scary how open … the BYD Shark is to a hacker."

...

While sabotage is one worry, the concern most often cited is surveillance due to the array of cameras and microphones on an EV.

Last year, the UK military banned Chinese EVs, even those made with Chinese components, from parking within 3 kilometres of some of its most sensitive locations.

China itself has previously banned foreign EVs from military sites and political enclaves, aware of their surveillance potential.

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In Australia, there's no blanket ban on Chinese marques by Defence, but ASIO has warned ministers and public servants not to have sensitive conversations in their cars or connect work devices.

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When I pull into a service station and leave my phone unlocked in the car, Hreszczuk seizes his opportunity.

He's done a simple audio edit, stitching together me saying "Hey Siri" and his voice asking a few questions to get the personal details he needs.

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Using the car's speaker system, Hreszczuk plays the voice command from his computer into the car.

"Hey, Siri, what is my home address?" the edited audio asks.

Siri replies, without questioning why I don't know where I live.

Hreszczuk repeats this process and quickly extracts my date of birth and age.

Within minutes, he's obtained the internet banking password.

...

Alastair MacGibbon, Australia's former national cyber security adviser, says there needs to be greater protections for the data collected by all connected cars, and clearer rules about what data can be sent overseas.

MacGibbon says a cabinet minister should not be able to own a Chinese EV.

"China has always shown its strong desire to steal things, to surveil," he says.

"No-one should be in any doubt that [Chinese EVs] are used in the same manner.

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[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

It's probably similar with all these new "high tech" cars. Although I would like to know, it's a shame they only talked about it with one specific model from one specific brand.

They probably hoped people would infer it's the same with all Chinese cars, but for some reason not western cars.

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

At this point just get an e-bike or a normal bike if you have calories to burn.

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 hours ago

"China has always shown its strong desire to steal things, to surveil," he says.

"No-one should be in any doubt that [Chinese EVs] are used in the same manner.

Just more sinophobic shit. All that vegemite rot all Aussie brains.

[-] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Smh, like the NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS, ... don't do the same! Hell, I read from Drey Dossier that some of the surveillance tech in China was made by Oracle!

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

I'd say this is by far the biggest issue with EVs. Well, not necessarily with EVs, but with new cars in general, most of which happen to be EVs, and their share will only continue growing.

Sure, it's a nice car, somewhat better for the environment, pretty cool. But it's also a giant surveillance device that gathers more information on you than your smartphone, smart tv, and computer combined.

And it has a kill switch, too. If the government being able to remotely shut down your car wasn't bad enough - this research shows that virtually any hacker may be able to do so as well.

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 15 hours ago

good thing all other cars are safe from hacking

[-] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 15 hours ago

I was thinking how insane it is to make the law specific to foreign cars. Like native ev companies are going to be super cool about that data…

[-] moodoovoodoo@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago

US auto manufacturer software development is widely considered to be top-notch.

/s just in case

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 20 points 14 hours ago

So it's just like any other new car?

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

yeah but it has a chinese label so it's bad. lol

[-] ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

I am not going to say this is a one country specific problem. However, we for sure need to start a much needed scrutiny regarding cars in general and privacy/security, and we need to start somewhere

[-] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Reading this made me think about how people have devices like this all over their lives.

I would love for a consumer group like the EFF or IEEE or whatever to “certify” devices from a security standpoint. It could start as a marketing point from the manufacturers standpoint, a logo they could add that says someone looked at it.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago

This is an amazing idea.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 12 hours ago

Start by buying vintage cars without cellular modem.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago
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