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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 179 points 11 months ago (45 children)

My "favorite" lecture from young people is the one in which they berate me for "stealing content" by not watching ads on YouTube.

I have a vivid memory of YouTube being a platform where normal people could share videos of their kids and pets or other fun random low quality but entertaining things

[–] Beefytootz@lemmy.world 79 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand why they think we care if we're stealing content regardless. I pirate movies and TV shows, but they don't whine about that, in fact, most will approve of it. Why draw the line at YouTubers?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago (7 children)

They often say that we're screwing the person who runs the channel. In reality, I'm willing to bet my left nutsack that they make a fuckton more from the occasional donations than from ads, once Google, MCNs, and the government take their share.

[–] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Pretty sure most YouTubers and streamers will tell you exactly that. Sponsorships and brand deals make them way way more

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[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because they think that they'll be YouTube superstars one day, and we're stopping them

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

YouTube has increased the amount of ads that used to be standard by about 1000%. You used to get about 22-26 minutes of actual content per 30 minutes of viewing. On YouTube it's about 2 minutes of advertising per 0.5-3 minutes of viewing. The majority of the things I watch on YouTube are short 30 second videos to see specific things, but Google seems to think it's okay to show me 2-3 minute long commercials before letting me see the 30 second blurb telling me the foot pounds per square inch I need to apply to my brake calipers before I can finish my brake change job. This is even more annoying now that Google doesn't surface this type of information on regular websites, where I can just quickly read the spec.

TLDR: fuck Google and fuck ads

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[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It feels like YouTube has become the new Hollywood with production companies and YouTubers becoming celebrities and whatnot. Such a far cry from it's beginnings as a place where people would upload random family videos that nobody watched.

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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 125 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Honestly it doesn't seem to take very long at all. I watched live as the insurrectionists attempt to overturn democracy in the US during their failed auto-coup on January 6th less than 3 years ago.

Though there was some "it's not real" talk in the immediate aftermath the idea that it was a false flag, antifa, not an insurrection, not a big deal, just tourists having an afternoon scroll, etc. seems to be growing.

I wonder why the "left wing radical Democrat antifa operatives engaging in a false flag attack to make Trump look bad" marched under banners with Trump's name, admitted they were doing it for Trump, in some cases ran for office on the Republican ticket, and are actively being protected by Republican politicians.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 54 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Pretty astonishing when the whole thing was basically live streamed. I member watching it as it happened

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Watching terrorist Ashli Babbitt get shot from multiple angles, then seeing comments from Trumpers like:

  1. She's a hero
  2. She's a false flag
  3. She's not actually dead
  4. She didn't do anything wrong

And this is barely two years. Going to bet a decade from now, the misinformation will be worse.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It was a near immediate campaign to convince people not to believe their lying eyes and ears. I think deep down, the spin doctors know that they're lying though.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago

Oh, is it time for that Sartre quote again?

“Never believe that [they] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. [They] have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

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[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Same thing in Canada with the fucker convoy in Ottawa. Traitors tried to overthrow a democratically elected government, literal fascists were present and Ottawa was held captive by these morons. Conservatives attempt to frame it as fake and a party. Fuck them.

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[–] eltrain123@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was sitting in a control room at work while it was happening and all the conservative coworkers I had were saying “Look at all those Antifa’s pretending to be Trump supporters!”

I’m glad I left that job…

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Probably the same people who go "The government is incapable of running anything" and the next thing out of their mouth is how the government is running some perfectly secret massive plot. Somehow it is top secret but people like them know about it.

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[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 112 points 11 months ago (21 children)

I find the opposite more annoying. If your memory of those events is accurate there's plenty of things to point to to back it up.

But then you have older people like my father who...I don't know, something has completely rewritten their memories of significant events to the point where he claims many things happened differently than verifiable recorded history. It's impossible to argue with that because of him seeing me pointing out that's not true as an attack and accusing him of lying.

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago

My favorite was arguing with a much older (late 70s) friend of my dad's about how Obama ruined the economy and stock market, and when I told him that was objectively not true and the GFC was in full swing well before Obama was even elected, he was like "I know because I owned stocks and stuff, how would you even know?" Even when I pulled up a graph of the S&P 500 and showed the days he was elected and sworn in, he just said "Oh, that can't be right, the graph must be wrong". Showing the DOW and other composites from multiple sources did nothing to convince him. He was absolutely positive his retirement fund was doing great up until Obama was elected.

Yes Jerry, I'm sure that the entire stock market was just wrong, and it's not the fact you consume nothing but FOX News and will only refer to the 44th president as "The N*gger" potentially causing a bit of bias.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 87 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

As an early GenX whose been online since the BBS days this happens all the time but honestly the historical revisionism isn't main problems, it's the loss of context around the history.

[–] LongbottomLeaf 41 points 11 months ago

Reminds me of a Jon Stewart cutaway: "Context. It's why old people are sad."

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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

I still remember the so-called Greatest Generation and Silent Generation falling in love with Reagan, combined with Baby Boomer hedonistic indifference, resultng in liberal Democrats getting ripped to shreds at the ballot box. As an adapt-or-die reaction to Bernie-style Democrats getting electorally decimated in the 80s and 90s, the Democratic Party shifted to the center... and republicans got batshit insane with AM radio and 24-hour propaganda television.

Recent history has showed me in real time how it takes several elections to smash something down... or build something up. Yet there are too many people who seem to believe that one single election is a magic wand that can cure every goddamned evil in politics and society. And if they don't get what they want, they don't vote again, or they tune out entirely - "there were elections? I didn't notice" - constantly putting Democrats in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

Case in point of Democrats getting bold: LBJ signing the Civil Rights Act into law, and the country got Nixon twice. Democrats lost the entire south electorally for generations, to this day and beyond.

Also, Democrats have to deal with hysterical and/or opportunistic right wing shitheads who abuse their power to sabotage every policy proposal, or even the normal functioning of the government at every level, pointless government shutdowns that paralyze the entire apparatus, including day-to-day essentials like teachers and park rangers.
Fascist bastards who enjoy flirting with visions of dictatorship... as long as they're the dictator. Who are constantly looking for ways to subvert democracy. Nixon, Cheney, the orange intestinal parasite.

This is the math Democrat politicians have to work with whenever making a far-reaching decision.

Complicating the hellish job even further, there's all those fickle, cherry-picking oh-so-pure voters who demand being catered to instantly and get their "knowledge" from twitter, a noisy drag on the equation.

Since the 90s, the right wing bastards have perfected the dark art of exploiting 24-hour mass media to keep people rabidly ignorant, to divide and conquer with a "politics for idiots" mantra that bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe.

I saw it all happen in real time.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

LBJ signing the Civil Rights Act into law, and the country got Nixon twice. Democrats lost the entire south electorally for generations, to this day and beyond.

Does Georgia mean nothing to you? 😭 We trying.

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[–] brenstar@programming.dev 80 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I was telling someone much younger than myself that airports didn’t always completely suck to go through. I explained how the TSA wasn’t a thing and the experience was closer to getting on a bus or a train pre 9/11.

He had a hard time wrapping his head around it because he’s never experienced it.

Made me feel very old.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 11 months ago (3 children)

As a post 9/11 adult, moving to a place with really good and smooth flowing train infrastructure made me so frustrated with the stressful and unnecessary security theatre of airports worldwide

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Especially since it's just theater. It's just to make you feel fucking oppressed. Fuck!

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Take your shoes off. Take your belt off. Step into the scanner. Is that bottle more than 3.4 ounces? It looks like it's 3.42 ounces. Throw it out. Put your belt back on. Put your shoes back on. Did you pack your bags yourself? Have your bags been in your possession since you packed them? Take your shoes back off. In 2015 TSA missed 95% of weapons that a red team attempted to smuggle through security. Put your shoes back on.

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[–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand, there's my dad defending Apartheid with the defence "you weren't there". The whole rest of the world from the time seemed to agreed with me, too, Dad.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

I also seem to remember black South Africans being opposed to apartheid - and they were certainly there.

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I still regard post-9/11 as an aberration. It feels like if I accept it as the new normal I've failed some duty to humanity.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It made the world weird - especially politics. I still attribute the extreme polarization that we see today to the aftermath of 9/11.

Don't get me wrong, I know people had strong opinions before 2001, but it didn't seem like political party was as significant a part of the average person's identity like it is now.

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[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It's cute that Lemmy already has classic reposts

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[–] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (7 children)

There was 4 Jeffery Epstines on the grassy knoll that melted the steel beams that killed Malcome L King!

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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago (4 children)

To be fair, with time we can learn about what happened and understand it better than whatever the media at the time thought.

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[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (6 children)

It's not quite a historical event, more of a bit of trivia, but it seems to be common knowledge that it's possible to cheat at Duck Hunt by pointing the light gun at a light bulb, making it register a hit every time, often repeated as a sort of "look how far we've come, those silly game devs in the 80s missing such an obvious exploit."

Except it doesn't work. The light gun checks for a frame of darkness followed by a frame of light. If it picks up light when it's not supposed to, it counts it as a miss because it knows what you're pointing at isn't the screen at all. But people in all corners of the internet are absolutely convinced this trick was a thing for some reason.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Memories are worse than research

People are adamant that unpaid days off in the 90s meant people had to work without pay

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[–] flamehenry@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the time I got a quiz question wrong; who was the first Man on the Moon.

I wasn't born, but everything I've ever read said it was Neil Armstrong, so that's what I answered.

The idiot quiz master said it was Buzz Aldrin (the second man). In disbelief, I tried to educate them of their error, only for the rest of the room, mainly boomers, to tell me I was wrong. Including one guy in his 80s who said "It was definitely Buzz. I watched it when it happened. I remember it well".

I asked him "who said the famous 'one small step for man'?"

Him: "Ahh yes, Now that was Armstrong."

Me: "Surely Buzz would say those words if he was the first one out. I mean there is literally video of the event. You even watched it live"

Him: "Yes, it's Armstrong in the video. But Buzz was definitely first out. Who do you think was holding the camera?"

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[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Image Transcription: Twitter Post


brittany wilson, @sameoldstory

One disorientating thing about getting older that nobody tells you about is how weird it feels to get a really passionate, extremely wrong lecture from a much younger person about verifiable historical events you can personally remember pretty well

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[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

my kids are five and seven and i'm already starting to get this. i aint ready.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It blows younger people's minds, when I mention my grandmother spent time in a concentration camp.

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