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[-] TrollAccount69@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago

I’m not interested in explaining this on the world version of this thread (or at least the one with a million posts that shows up in active/all) because even drollaccount69 has his limits, but this has nothing to do with repairability or “them” trying to get one over on “you”.

Over the past few years gpus have become hard to buy at msrp. People want to use them for ai. The memory chips are expensive and it’s worth it to solder a gpu core and twice the memory to a customs third party pcb to be able to sell the finished much more memory dense card. You can buy 4090s and 4080s with 48 and 32gb of vram respectively on eBay now and even larger configurations directly from shops that do them although maybe not on those specific cards.

But where do they get cores and the extra vram? They don’t buy the fucking chips from mouser, I can assure you of that fact. They get the vram and core chips off other gpus. So prices of gpus which would otherwise have no value to ai scalpers because of their low computational efficiency or memory density still track the premiums the big cards command because they get their cores and or vram pulled.

If that sounds crazy, as a person who has a fairly high degree of experience with microsoldering, it is. Those vram and especially core chips are huge and the boards they’re on are thick and the degree of skill required to desolder them successfully and consistently, even with every trick and tool at your disposable is very impressive.

I used to make people sign waivers before I’d do that kind of work because there’s a real, unavoidable chance of unrecoverable damage. It’s crazy.

So it should come as no surprise that designers of SBCs which have interesting computational capabilities and are differentiated by the soldered on ram are looking at clandestine bga rework shops essentially doing wizard shit at scale and thinking carefully about how they can keep those people from trying the same shit with their products.

Now you may think that still counts as hurting the customer, but in a world where there’s mounting incentive to yank ram modules from one piece of equipment and put them on another in order to sell a super high capacity device at a premium, preventing that kind of modification protects the customer of low ram devices. Which most home users of SBCs are.

Lest you start to think the sbc people are your friends, most of their sales are of low ram skus. They want to sell more units and having them all get snatched up and Frankensteined is bad for business.

It should also be noted here that Nvidia doesn’t care if an insane dystopian high tech black market sprouts up around their consumer shit, the only money that matters to them is in gb and vr racks sold directly. That black market could most likely sink rpi holdings if the same thing happened with their stuff.

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 13 hours ago

Thanks for taking the time to write this. It's really good and insightful.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

If they really cared about users not getting frauded they could just make the Raspi firmware show an ugly bright unskipable warning when detecting a mismatched RAM chip but still allow it to fully use the new RAM after acknowledgement.

Besides, and please correct me if I'm wrong, if fraudsters are already bothering to un-solder and resolder the ram chips, couldn't they also flash a patched EEPROM to bypass this anyway?
Even if they don't do a good job, they only need the board to work for long enough to fool the buyer.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I just bought an i7 thinkpad with 16gb of memory, a 15" screen, and charges over usb-c for $100 off Craigslist. for home project linux stuff that doesn't need small form factor, super low energy and GPIO, it's a no-brainer. plus you can buy usb attached GPIO, so low energy and small form factor are the main things raspberry pi has going for it, and i bet most people don't need those for fiddling with home linux projects. for things like led programming, microcontrollers are cheaper and lower energy. raspberry pi used to be really appealing, but these days i find that it fills a pretty small hole.

[-] FridaVanMercury@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 14 hours ago

I just bought [...] 16gb of memory [...] for $100 off Craigslist

Amazing!

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

If they had a system where you could fix it, it would be a good thing. Even if it was as labyrinthine are the motorola bootloader unlock process.

But claiming that this is fraud protection when it isn't known at purchase makes it bullshit

And here I was getting ready to buy a pi4 for a pihole, but I'm not sure if I want to support that bullshit

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 3 points 17 hours ago

Just run it as a container. If you do need a separate device, you can even get away with a pi zero 2w, though I'd add a USB Ethernet adapter.

That said, I haven't been happy with the pi since they sold commercial but limited consumer during the pandemic, so I'd say an orange pi is a better choice anyway.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago

They are just being greedy bastards. If they are worried about support issues, they should just say no support or warranty if the board wasn't bought from an approved reseller.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago

they should just say no support or warranty

aka the nvidia strategy -- their shit is literally built and tested on linux, but they still refuse to support it.

[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

The raspberry is dead

Long live orange pi

t. Am typing this on my orange pi 5 max.

[-] FridaVanMercury@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 14 hours ago

I just switched to Dietpi as OS for my Pi 4, as soon as that one dies I will go for one of the many other SBCs supported by Dietpi, like the Orange Pi or whatever else seems suitable.

this post was submitted on 22 Sep 2026
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