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Eat shit tech dirt.
I hate “AI” as much as the next guy, but that seems a bit harsh. They are making a very specific point, and it seems well argued to me.
That’s not to say that infringement is necessarily okay. But it’s a distinct issue from “theft.”
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Fair use isn’t infringement. And if it is infringement, it’s not “theft.” And even if a use competes with you, competition doesn’t make it illegal. Indeed, the “effect of the use upon the potential market” is just one of four factors, and it isn’t supposed to let ordinary competition swallow the entire fair use analysis. That these employees (who are not, themselves, copyright experts) said random things does not change the actual underlying analysis of fair use. Or, at least, it shouldn’t.
It's not fair use and it's theft. The artists and creators had no way of opting out because most didn't know about it.
It’s not theft. It’s plagiarism. They’re different.
Your second point is a valid problem with what they did (but doing something that is wrong doesn’t mean it is theft).
If I ran into a university and stole all of their teaching aids, books and art to "train my university students, that's still fucking theft. Why tf would you stick up for them in any way?
Did you copy them or keep them?
Why are you interpreting this as defending them?
Don't you have to steal them to copy them? The fact that no one knew they were stealing them to copy, means the owners didn't know, couldn't opt out or protect them. Just because it's not a law yet, doesn't make it okay.
Why are you interpreting this as defending them?
Why are you not? You wrote the defense out.
If someone still has their belongings after a “theft” it’s not theft.
What they are doing is violating the artists (and much more heinous things), but calling it theft isn’t accurate, has undesirable side effects, and doesn’t solve the problem of stopping them doing what they’re doing.
don't you have to steal them to copy them
No, you can go into the library and take pictures / scans of the pages without the books ever leaving the library.
... and then write cheap copies without any penalties whatsoever, right?
Yes, that's copyright infringement, not theft
i guess you are not old enough to have seen the old commercials lol
Billions of them? ok
this post was submitted on 23 Sep 2026
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