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I feel bad for the PMs that had to be that close. When my cat would eat something he's not supposed to and shit himself I couldn't clean it without a P100 mask or I'd gag and almost puke.
Stupid and dangerous. They should have said no.
The US had previously been allowed to build bases there, Trump just didn't know that. Denmark gave him a win that is none, really, in return for him being quiet about Greenland. We'll see how long that'll last.
I'm no military strategist, but normally if a country threatens to take over your territory you don't let them build military bases there.
There is basically nothing new in that agreement, USA always had the option to have more bases in Greenland, and they used to have that during the cold war. It is USA themselves that have limited the number of bases they wanted to have there.
Trump just think he made some kind of deal, when in reality that deal has been there for more than half a century.
I don't really like it. Complains about the cost of defending a Europe he hates. Spends/Builds bases in missile/aircraft range to be closer to attack Europe but defended by isolation and no armies nearby.
Technically he lost ground, we had very very wide range on the number and location of us bases and now we're limited to two without renegotiation.
Yeah, this is... Trumps playbook again and again.
Make up fake controversial bullshit, get massive headlines, never actually follow through with bullshit, and then just do what we were gonna do already and call it a 'victory'. But nothing was ever really done, it was all a storm in a teacup and legally or operationally nothing really changed.
All his 'wins' are just maintaining the status quo, and the media and the public eat it up.
There's also a clause that says they can only be there if USA is in NATO.
Which ties them.to NATO for the foreseeable.
Oh yeah I'm sure we'll promptly vacate these military bases if/when we leave NATO.
One, that's unfortunate
Two, if the US breaks off NATO, it's not like anyone should expect whoever is there at the time to say "oh okay never mind" and then sit up and leave.
They weren't there before for whatever reason, and now that they have a foot in, they're just gonna keep pushing.
Sure, but with Trump there never really is a "deal", because at some point in the future he'll just decide he wants something else. See, e.g., NAFTA. In this case, he'll build up the bases and then declare Greenland part of the U.S.. I'd like to believe that the midterm elections will shift the balance of power, and Trump will face a reckoning, but in reality I think he'll do something like declare martial law and fuck the elections. He's already ordered republicans to "cheat like hell". It's going to be an interesting year end.
Absolutely Trump is not to be trusted, but I think this was not so much about the deal as it was to appease Trump so he will focus elsewhere.
It's like when you distract a crying baby by shaking the rattle that's already in their hand.
Besides the Orange signature being worthless, they could deal for less enemy's presence, not more.
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These bases won't be operational for years, by which time we'll likely be rational again.
And with the US carrier strategy, this doesn't really make attacking Greenland any easier or more likely.
They're not building from scratch, but one is abandoned and one was only used by dog sledders...
The current US government isn't exactly competent, this is not a short term threat.
It also says that "no state that is not a member of Nato shall be allowed to establish its own manned or unmanned military installations in Greenland nor shall they be allowed a persistent presence of military forces in Greenland".
And locks us into NATO in the meantime, which is a short term threat
by which time we'll likely be rational again.
Really, America is going to have complete generational turnover of its electorate in just a couple of years?
Well if America doesn't, I don't think we'll still be calling it "America" anymore in a couple of years.
I hope we will be rational again in a couple years. It took trials and decades of divided Germany to mostly fix the scourge of Nazism. We might have to ban all MAGA speech and symbols, which would be an interesting Constitutional challenge.
Buddy...
Like, you for real think trump leaving office will be as big of a deal as the Nazis losing WW2?
Shits fucking bad, to an unacceptable level...
But it's nowhere near actually nazi bad, even though most of Trump's admin wants it to be. Like, the reason it was so hard post WW2, is even German children were conscripted into the Nazi military. They were actually fighting in a war, and carried that damage with them after the war
That alone is a massive difference.
trump disappearing from American politics will be much closer to GW leaving office than hitler shooting himself.
By 2030 I fully expect most Republicans to claim they never personally supported trump just like they did after GW left office.
But all that needs to happen to keep them out of office is not having the only option be a neoliberal. And since neoliberals can't win fair elections and the current DNC will run fair primaries, we don't
I feel like it's almost early Mousilini bad...
I'm not saying MAGA is as bad as Nazi Germany (yet), but the lawbreaking, ethics violations, and constitutional infringements will take many many years to process. It's been multiple things by so much of the administration every damn day.
but the lawbreaking, ethics violations, and constitutional infringements will take many many years to process.
None of that started with trump...
trump just sucks at hiding it.
And it's as easy of a fix as electing a decent president. The reason that used to be hard, was neoliberals controlling the DNC for 30+ years.
The reason it stopped being hard, is neoliberals don't control the DNC.
Like, two years ago people would have said it would take decades to route out the corruption in the NYC mayora office.
It was actually pretty easy. Mamdani's big secret is he's just genuinely trying to fix shit
That works on a national level as well
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Anyone else reading this like it's Sid Meier's Civilization and this is just stacking military units in an "ally's" territory before the inevitable betrayal?
I mean seriously. Come on now.
Looking at where the bases are, its them trying to make a claim on the Northwest passage, potentially on the Canadian arctic as a whole.
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