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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

For the same reason that people were selling crypto mining boxes rather than just plugging them in:

The only guaranteed profit in a gold rush is to be the one selling shovels.

See Nvidia for details.

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

The reality is the product is the easy part.

Actually selling it, maintaining it, selling more of it and running a profitable business is the hard part.

So the AI makes the product really easy to make, but selling it is the hard part.

[-] TomArrr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Why don’t they ask ai how to sell it. After all, isn't it super intelligent?

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I do work for a software company, and sales is part of my job. And yes, sometimes I get the AI to review a tricky sale. Not usually though.

However, the reality is it takes years and years to build relationships, get into markets, get visibility.

Basically embed yourself into a market. So the product is the easy part. The sale is the hard part.

[-] Jokulhlaups@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That's like asking why doesn't Adobe make their own content and keep the tools internal.

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

They're selling hype, not technology

[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The real reason isn't that they can't turn a profit, it's that they don't have to.

They don't have to be profitable because they aren't fueling growth with profits, they're fueling it with debt and investment. Like many have noted, they cannot do that forever and will eventually pass that cost to consumers. A significant portion of their existing cost is driven by research, which they can scale back by lobbying for legislation, so that peers getting a leg up is more difficult and small players catching up is almost impossible.

Also, both Anthropic and OpenAI have planned IPOs, where they will inevitably raise a ton of cash. It's a game of chicken though. How long can they fuel growth without being publicly accountable to balance sheets and shareholders? Whether we like it or not, they will almost certainly transition to being profitable businesses, but only when it is advantageous for them to do so. Right now, it's not a priority; the priority is growth to the point of diminishing returns.

[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 60 points 2 days ago

In a gold rush it is better, on average, to sell the shovels then to mine the gold.

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[-] mspencer712@programming.dev 141 points 3 days ago

They’re working on it. They just need a little more of your internal documents and source code.

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The AI companies could probably be profitable if they weren't dumping tons of money into new model research, but then they would stagnate and die to the ones who keep moving forward.

Companies using their AI don't need to worry about that expense.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It'd be so funny if research hits a breakthrough that absolutely collapses the cost of inference, allowing anyone to self host frontier models, eliminating the ability for all the main AI companies to ever recoup their costs.

Well, except where everyone's data gets sold at bottom dollar in liquidation. Actually, that'd be pretty funny too.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

Self host on what? The way we're going 16GB of RAM to run the models will be a capital investment...

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I don't know if that'll happen to frontier models, but I definitely see it happening with models that work well enough for the vast majority of personal use.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

It's a definite risk. They do steal your inputs and the outputs they send back to you. They will always have even more powerful models that aren't released yet. If you avoid sending them all of your code, they could hack you to steal it. They will certainly copy any good ideas their competitors come up with (Meta Muse agent, jev) within weeks, as they all copied claude code and open claw. Answer to OP is "just not yet".

The unified US establishment goal is to create skynet for global and domestic domination. Theoretically, the AI bond villains could make sufficently sophisticated weapon/control systems to threaten the government, but why bother when it already wants to give them all of our money. "Whoever wins AI, wins" means only first to skynet, wins. Zero relevance to any AI customers, who obviously win through the widest competition/choices on what to use to help them. Not the nationality of the oligarchs that profit off them.

https://naturalfinance.blogspot.com/2026/09/a-global-prosperity-manifesto.html

[-] eksb@programming.dev 119 points 3 days ago

Because it is a scam. Just like the people selling, instead of using:

  • healing crystals
  • essential oils
  • blockchain
  • penis-enlargement pills
  • JIRA
[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago

LOL Love the (accurate) JIRA inclusion there

[-] whyrat@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

Q: Couldn't this JIRA ticket just be an email?

A: No! Because JIRA will send you like, 10 emails.

[-] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 days ago
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[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 32 points 2 days ago

Because nobody but nvidia profits from LLMs.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Shovel salesmen

[-] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

How's TSMC doing these days?

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, all right, "hardware suppliers" in general.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 63 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'd wager it's simply not possible to be profitable using AI for most use-cases. You either burn way too many tokens on your queries or risk your business falling victim to an under-tokenized AI hallucination.

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[-] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago

I love the assumption that if you spend enough tokens, it won’t hallucinate, like it isn’t a mathematical certainty or anything.

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[-] Senal@programming.dev 23 points 2 days ago

This is exactly the question i ask "investment advisor" services when they call asking if i want help managing investments.

For you to have a system that works well enough for me to be interested , there'd be no need for you to spend money on call centers full of people ringing up strangers for money, you could take all of that money and invest it in the plan you are trying to sell me.

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[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If I recall correctly, shovel companies made a lot of money while only a few of their shovels actually struck gold.

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[-] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Why did the snake oil salesman grow old and die? Same reason.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

To be fair, a reasonable answer would be the same as any reseller or value-added business. They have some skill, capital, or existing market capture that the whole seller does not.

Don't get me wrong it can still be bullshit, but it's actually pretty common.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Better question is if you can really build an app as easily as writing a prompt, why would anyone pay you for your app?

Somehow AI bros like to pretend that AI is some secret lifehack despite it being one of the most mainstream things in human history.

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[-] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 37 points 3 days ago

When potatoes came over from the New World, a lot of Europeans grew them as decorative plants. New shit makes people do weird stuff.

Not everybody is trying to make a business with so-called AI. The peddlers are just the loudest.

The companies promise their models can do all this stuff for paying customers. If the models were truly that capable, the so-called AI companies ought to be doing everything with them and be raking in the dough like mad. Which they're not because they know the limitations of the models. It's what economists call the bullshit gap between marketing and reality. And by economists I mean me.

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[-] jason@discuss.online 24 points 2 days ago

Been shouting this from the rooftops since the beginning. If it was half as good as claimed, I would NOT have access to it.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They are going for the gold rush pick axe business model

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