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[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

How about everyone eats what they want? Not everything needs to be decided by the federal government.

[-] M137@lemmy.today 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not a single person answered the question, which is WHERE they should eat, not what.

You're assuming that there isn't a pizza store called "Pizza!" and a restaurant called this old shoe that serves shoes.

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

The electoral college is a weird vestige of an earlier time. Each state gets apportioned a vote equal to the number of senators and congressmen they get; so the least populous states get an outsized voice in appointing a President.

When the law to cap the size of the US house to 435 representatives was passed in the very early 1900s - the US population was only ~90m. If instead the size of the elected body was allowed to grow in line with population, the US would have something closer to ~1,600 representatives currently, and as a result the electoral college would be much more equitable.

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

Please tell me votes from certain states aren't worth more than votes from other states in America...

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Sort of. The idea is to avoid giving California power to decide policy for the entire country.

[-] skidicarus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Not in a straightforward manner, no. One vote is just one vote. Most states are winner takes all, so the simple majority winner of, say, California takes all the electoral votes in California. It just so happens that California has less electoral votes per capita than states like Wyoming.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Well the senate is composed of 2 legislators from each state, so technically and in practice smaller states can band together effectively and distort policy that a majority of the people would be for. Theres a strong argument that my vote in Maine carries more political weight than a vote in california when it comes to the senate. This has allowed the southern states to drag their feet on policy over the years, and caused a lot of questions about representation in the country. So moving down the line, our presidential elections use an electoral college where house seats (which are restricted and tied to the population + senate seats = EC votes) So when it comes to electing presidents a state like maine with 1M people is punching way above its representation weight compared to california. Most of the EC votes are winner takes all which is the reason why california votes blue and alabama votes red for the president. Its also the reason why Nebraska and maine split their votes to offer people fair represenation in their districts.

TLDR: Yes and its mathematically supported

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago
[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Even i forget they are a state sometime.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

votes from certain states aren’t worth more than votes from other states in America

There you go. Though, for the record: votes from certain states are worth more than votes from other states in America.

[-] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 76 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

We need the electoral college because without it the ignorant masses might elect an dangerously unqualified reactionary demagogue they saw on a reality TV show.

[-] smeenz 17 points 3 days ago

Thank goodness that will never happen

[-] TefikiMupu@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Well maybe it'd happen once. but certainly not twice. Right?

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

That sounds like the plot of Idiocracy.

That'd be insane if it actually happened. Could you imagine!?

[-] smeenz 6 points 3 days ago

Don't worry, there are more than sufficient checks and balances in place to make sure that kind of situation could never occur!

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 86 points 4 days ago
[-] Signtist@bookwyr.me 95 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ed: Where should we eat? I say pizza.

Ann: Pizza!

Ty: Pizza!

Liz: Pizza!

Ed: Alright, pizza it is! Oh, right, I forgot we have to figure out what the voters will eat. I guess they can have this old shoe. Now, back to pizza!

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The Senate was never designed to be proportionate to a state's population. The House was.

It's fine to be against the idea of the Senate, but you should at least make sure you understand why it was created in the first place. That is, to create a union of states where each one has a certain level of autonomy.

The Senate is meant to represent each state's individual interests in a national legislature.

Sometimes the interests of a local municipality don't perfectly align with the interests of a state writ large. Which is why we have two houses: one to represent each state, and one that's proportionate to population and represents the districts within a state.

The real issue, in my opinion, is the Reapportionment Act of 1929 that put a hard cap on the number of members of the House of Representatives at 435 seats.

[-] SeriousMite@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

It was created because the founders didn’t trust democracy. Shay’s Rebellion had them nervous about too much democracy taking wealth from the ruling class.

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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

This would only make since as an example of the Electoral College if you adding something to adjust for everyone's theoretical impact on the meal.

If every voted but Liz was also paying a larger percentage of the bill than everyone else then it would make sense that her opinion outweighs everyone else.

[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago

Let's let the class decide what type of pizza to get.

Counting the votes, pepperoni wins.

Counting the votes at each table, then each counting the winner per table, pepperoni wins.

Arbitrarily dividing each table into "groups" of students, then adding those groups up to determine which choice won the table, then counting the tables... anchovies wins!

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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 58 points 4 days ago

I bet Liz from Wyoming votes to eat the shoe at like 90% of meals, but argues that she's totally different from all the other shoe eaters.

[-] Signtist@bookwyr.me 18 points 4 days ago

Hold on now, Liz only wants everyone else to eat shoes - she still wants pizza for herself! That's what she's gonna get, right? ...Right?

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[-] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 33 points 4 days ago

Land doesn't vote. People do. End the Electoral College now.

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[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago

Where

pizza

shoe

Me, off-camera: these people are idiots

[-] SourDragon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

"I'm so tired, I could eat a horse"

[-] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

I think you mean 'at horse'

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago

This has been the electoral college

[-] Jhogenbaum@leminal.space 2 points 2 days ago

This makes the most sense as a "who to vote for" in the [private] primary systems we use to determine who to vote for in our very openly rigged two party system. We/the "two parties" purposely drag the parties to extremes by having their primaries in certain states and candidates are driven to court extremes and we pretend that's good as many valid candidates are "weeded out" that way. (Again, it's a private system, So even non-centrist candidates, famously Bernie, can just be ignored as the party chooses who they want)

[-] blackbrook@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 days ago
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[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Could a voting bloc of Democrats move to Wyoming pretending to be Republican and then swing the vote before the RNC has any idea what happened. If they are so sparsely populated it can't be that hard to outvoted them.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

Sure but who the fuck wants to move to Wyoming?

[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Well almost 200k people would need to move there. Making Puerto Rico a state would probably be easier.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 4 days ago

as a senator she would have alot more voting power in congress.

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