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The road to daily-drivable mainline phones (postmarketos.org)

submitted 6 days ago by exu@feditown.com to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ca

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[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 60 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I am very happy that the FP5 is a proposed "main" device 🥳

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago

I am and I'm not at the same time because the FP5 isn't super easy to get in the US. The FP6 plus is the first one that's actually sold here.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 19 points 6 days ago

Support for the FP6 is progressing very well independently of this, so I wouldn't worry. :)

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago

Yeah, true. I fully intend for my next phone to be running Nura, no matter how much shit I have to put up with. I do need the basic functions of a phone to work, though. Speakers, microphones, call, text, mobile data, and Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth. I figure the touchscreen is a given.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 5 days ago

For me the big problem is the camera. Ideally I should probably carry a proper camera with me at all times, but that's just not realistic. I really value the pictures I take throughout my life so I need a phone that captures things well.

It seems for now Ubuntu Touch does a decent job with Android camera drivers, but Nura has a long way to go on all devices. I trust it'll get there though.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago

For me, the camera is totally unimportant other than being able to scan QR codes and do pinch to zoom so that I can read print because of me being legally blind. But as far as pictures go, I basically never use the camera.

Pretty much as long as it can scan QR codes, I'm okay with it.

[-] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

Me too, and I wanted it working last year. I considered GrapheneOS on a Google Pixel 9 or 10 Pro with the Google camera app, but installed /e/OS on a Sony Xperia 1 V with the Sony camera app. Relocking the bootloader is forbidden by Sony.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah, I'm also using /e/OS for the time being. The Fairphone camera app is officially supported for /e/ on Fairphone 5, so no compromise is needed. I just don't want to stick around on Android forever. :)

[-] scallisto@retrofed.com 6 points 6 days ago

It's kind of neat that they are going for it as well as an SBC (easier for developers to work with) and a more affordable and accessible device (the Motorola Edge 30)

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 6 points 6 days ago

Me too! I bought mine hoping I'd daily drive mainline Linux on it by the time I was done, with this development that seems somewhat plausible.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Would be interested to hear @themightycat@ani.social chime in with any reflections and/or plans to work with Nura to get a device maintainer team going! I can see reasons not to—contributing upstream directly without having to work in a team is probably more efficient—but there might be reasons to consider it as well.

Whether it works for all contributors or not this seems like a really neat development and I'm happy to see what becomes of it. Especially for the Fairphone 5. :)

[-] TheMightyCat@ani.social 18 points 6 days ago

This seems like a very good development, but as for joining a team i am open to the idea but not sure if i will apply. Especially considering most of the work is already done and maintaining it will now be done on the list.

[-] Dalaryous@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I've been following your FP6 and I love it. Thanks fir all the hard work!! I drive an FLX1s for daily-driver but hardware is notable (low RAM crashes sometimes) and performance is okay'ish. I may switch to FP6, looking at your hardware enablement and ofc, donation to you :)

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The Fairphone 5 needs the extra work enabling the components.

[-] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

I'm still on the fence on which OS I should fully commit to. On one hand, Ubuntu Touch feels much better for navigating an OS with a touchscreen and is a bit more secure (I think). On the other hand, Nura has way better application support.

[-] paper_moon@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If they can get a few phones that everything "just works" I think Nura will be better for linux enthusiasts coming from android. I have a Fairphone 5 with Gnome Mobile installed and it feels at home, and a very similar UX with how in would use a phone under android, with how apps are switched and how the phone interacts (pull down quick settings for wifi/GPS/notifications, etc) obviously android is more polished with features. But I like it better than Ubports UX, and I'm not a fan that Ubports has to have custom made apps while also not supporting flatpaks.

Though both are a success for getting linux ecosystem on a phone, so I'm not hating, I just prefer the UX and apps support of a project like Nura better.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

Nura needs to become secure.

[-] JamonBear@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

It is called Duranium!

[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago

So do I...

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

You can do it!

[-] lokalhorst@feddit.org 7 points 6 days ago

Nice I have a motorola Edge 30 that lost the signal frequently so I had to abandon it (LineageOS). As it was my daily driver I didn't have the patience to try to fix it. But I definitely know what I will do with it in the future!