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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by fenrasulfr@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

Please look a the video it will explain the problem whole lot better than I ever could. But if you think it is important please sign the petition.

The EU Commision is rolling out a law that will severly impede our rights when it comes to digital products.

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[-] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 78 points 4 days ago

Private Servers illegal? What the fuck?

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The purpose of nearly all Internet regulations is to make sure only the largest, richest tech companies in the world can comply with them and survive.

https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence is a 30-year-old document, but absolutely still relevant and utopian.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago

This is the feeling of hope i miss from the past. I really wish to feel it again.

[-] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago

We have collectively entered the hell version of our timeline, all hope is lost!

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 57 points 4 days ago

So the European Comission will not act on the Stop Destroying Videogames initiative, because it wants to focus on deregulation, because apparently current regulations are too much of a burden on businesses (source needed).

And the same European Comission is perfectly fine implementing new regulations for the purposes of... ruining everything for everybody and establishing close to the most totalitarian regime in existence right now?

See, there's always space for new regulation, as long as it benefits the oligarchs, and nobody else but the oligarchs!

[-] purple_mimosa@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Lobbying is corruption and the EU got ruined by it just like the USA.

[-] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

But Ross says in his video even the lobby thinks this is too excessive. Makes me wonder who's behind it then.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

The companies that are going to provide the verification services to the businesses probably.

[-] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Sounds like the working class of the USA and the working class of the EU have a common problem then.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 136 points 5 days ago
[-] gressen@lemmy.zip 31 points 5 days ago

Thanks, I signed it just now.

[-] Twerp10@reddthat.com 11 points 4 days ago

This doesn't mention the servers. Early morning reading comprehension is failing me. You sure this petition is about the same law?

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 days ago

The petition was introduced before that specific law was actually presented to the public, so doesn't mention the specifics, is only generally about age verification.

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Signed. Thank you.

[-] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago

Do I have to be in the EU to sign it?

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago

Or an EU citizen

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

Thanks for just giving me the link. Didnt feel like watching sad news in the morning.

[-] bertlewirth@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I don't want to live on this planet anymore :(

This timeline sucks balls.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago

This law will literally end indie game studios in the EU. Or at least prevent them from selling in the continent they are based in.

[-] Ftumch@lemmy.today 71 points 5 days ago

Online ID should only be legally mandated in cases where KYC (know your customer) laws exist, like financial services.

If you want to protect children, make them use devices that are locked down and block adult content. Online service providers should at most be required to mark such content with metadata.

[-] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago

KYC laws should be mandatory for any service that allows you to type the terrorist codeword characters “Palestine” into a text box especially where someone under the age of 500,000$ stock portfolio can see it

[-] bigmamoth@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Parental countrol are already mandatory in the UE. Im not liable for your children. If u can't educate them to technology dont buy them technology. In no way shape or form I'm liable for your children. If u cant educate them dont make them. If u think the whole world should be police cause u can't take care of your progeniture you are a parasyte.

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[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 69 points 5 days ago

EU fucktards doing the exact opposite of what was suggested.

[-] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 27 points 4 days ago

Oh and it is not only games. Has anyone a idea how to implement age verification for the fediverse? So have fun here as long as it lasts, because it will all burn under this law!

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I really wish we would move to some more resilient protocol, where the roles and responsibilities are more distributed, and identities fully portable.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Spammers: it’s free real estate!

[-] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago

and what would that change in regards of that law? It would still need a way to implement age verification and I really don't see a way for an open, federated, distributed system like the fediverse to implement it. It is in its core principles incompatible with age verification. I can't see a way for the fediverse to survive this law, not in the EU at least.

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

It would still need a way to implement age verification

Not really. Take nostr as an example. You probably wouldn't even notice if one or more of your relays went down due to legal, or any other problem. The move to a non compliant or offshore relay is just a single click away. No registrations, no new usernames, no new social graph.

It's not about becoming compliant, it's about becoming ungovernable.

[-] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago

The EU doesn't represent the interests of ordinary people.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It’s the EU Commission under Von Der Leyen. The European People’s Party got 13 seats out of 27 in the Commission. It’s the Christian democrat /conservative /center right liberal party of the EU. No wonder they are for this law.

The EU Parliament has people in it that are actually fighting for us.

[-] bigmamoth@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago
[-] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago

Marketá Gregorová, maybe?

[-] Phantom_Feline17@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago

Its true for all countries. Politicians only care about themselves and their shareholder friends. They only use the ordinary people as a means to gain more power and control even in democratic countries.

[-] arules@retrofed.com 7 points 4 days ago

tis the exact issue: ordinary people let themselves be represented at all. take your arms, show them who is actually in control.

[-] LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago

I think you are overestimating the ordinary people.

[-] boring_bohr@feddit.org 43 points 5 days ago
[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago
[-] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 20 points 4 days ago

They will try and try again, even if we could fight it this time.

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 30 points 5 days ago

What the shit. I'm surprised its not the US doing this. I know they will, but still.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There's a popular misconception that lobbying doesn't exist in the European Union. It does. Big money is constantly trying to sway and buy politicians into their interests, everywhere, and their interest are always right leaning social control. There's also a right wave going on in the world. The EU is leaning right, and with it there's a raise in popularity of dumb backwards legislation.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago

Also the EU Commission are not elected, they're nominated.

The only part the EU Parliament has in there is a confirmation (take it or leave it) vote on commissioners other than the head.

It's a perfect setup for moneyed interests to buy themselves whatever laws they want for an entire block of nations with 470 million people and which has a Gross Domestic Product close to the US.

So most of the EU crap comes from the EU Commission (though recently the EU Parliament itself renewed Chat Control when its head used a procedural trick to do it at a time when many parliamentaries were already on vacations and without needing a majority of parliamentarians to approve it, so shenanigans are an EU Commission monopoly).

[-] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 17 points 5 days ago

How's that legal? That's literally bribery.

I don't think it's the right. I've seen so many center left politicians support these draconian laws.

Good god, a lot of thirdworld countries are better at this.

[-] arules@retrofed.com 17 points 4 days ago

that's what “lobbying” means🤣. but instead of one person being affect, it's you and me, and everyone else not taking these authoritarians down.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago

It's the same people making or not both the Laws helping specific really wealthy companies who are known to provide gold-plated "opportunities" to friendly retired politicians and the Laws that would stop such obvious conflicts of interest, so of course they don't make the latter and thus it's perfectly legal to, after favoring certain companies and industries as a politician, retire from politics and go get paid a couple million a year from some company that the laws you made and measures you enacted helped.

This is why Democracy is supposed to have 3 independent pillars - Politics, the Press and the Judiciary - which watch over and keep each other in check: if the Political branch allows most forms of what in practice is corruption to be legal, the Press is suppose to hammer them for it.

Sadly, the Press is a lot less independent nowadays, ever since the same people who own the companies that benefit from "friendly" politician lawmaking bought most of the Press, plus specifically for the EU, its politics naturally get way less coverage than national politics in all EU countries (plus EU structures like the EU Commission are far more opaque), so naturally under such reduced visibility and understanding the crooks that manage to get themselves into lawmaking and executive positions in the EU get away with far more funny business than they would otherwise.

My own feeling is that if measured in terms of the amount of negative impact on EU nations and citizens, what people would consider to be corruption (so, all situations where politicians benefit certain economic interest in the expectation that they themselves will personally financially gain from having done so, even if they're actually legal), the EU structures are probably the most corrupt political structure in Europe, not because of having more corrupt people in it that elsewhere but because the measures enacted there have the most impact of all hence in that process benefiting certain interests by adding costs or limiting freedoms of others causes much more damage that it would if it was done at a local or even national level - a single corrupt EU Commissioner can cause far more damage than a single corrupt government minister in an EU nation.

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[-] radiouser@crazypeople.online 12 points 4 days ago

I love that man. Game Dungeon has kept me company in times of uneasiness and instability.

[-] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 15 points 5 days ago

If that vermin Metsola is still in charge while this gets voted, not even the Parliament will be able to stop it, as she clearly shows she's more than willing to bypass the Parliament's decision with chat control 1.0

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

She's just one of countless American assets ruining the entire EU from the inside.

All that scum belongs in camps in Siberia.

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