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[-] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago
[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

The algorithm demands the enragement bait.

[-] ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Bringing kids into a world while this is the backdrop of one's life seems almost heartless.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago

It seems that the driver doesn't need to know the value of the box they are delivering. They should expect the same tip from a $3 box and a $300.

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 17 points 19 hours ago

$300 of food is probably multiple bags. They can guess the cost if the average Uber Eats order is $30.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

More bags, higher delivery fee makes sense. But it doesn’t matter if it's 2lb of ramen or 2lb of lobster.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I thought for uber eats the "tip" was a bribe or bounty you have to add to your order ahead of time to ensure it even gets picked up?

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 6 points 15 hours ago

Now there's a pay ~$5 extra option to have your order delivered first. I doubt that goes to the driver. I tip pretty well when I do order but I've been getting barely warm food for awhile. Once I did tip less and just pay the $5 fee to get my food faster. Just more enshittifaction.

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

Now with extortion!

[-] Siethron@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

They don't know the tip until after the delivery. I've had a driver be like "they're making me wait to pick this up, please add a tip for extra time" (yeah ok buddy) I had already put a large tip on the delivery. I really wanted to remove it after the driver pulled that shit though.

[-] Tiral@lemmy.world 29 points 22 hours ago

Enormous $300 Uber order.... So like two numbers 1s from Chick fillet?

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Chick fila is somehow cheaper than mcdonalds for me.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It's because of the huge tax breaks they get for being god's chosen, duh.

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[-] 404found@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 day ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but the job is basically:

Accept an order (or don't if you don't feel like working)-> Pickup the order you didn't have to pack-> Deliver food & sometimes have 0 interaction with customer -> Hope for tip 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

I've worked for tips before. I can relate to the anger of the delivery driver but an Uber Eats job seems so simple that it's almost insulting to the customer that a tip is even getting discussed. P.S. I do tip

[-] myyass@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

I think the tipping should be dealt away with. Instead something like: vehicle value, insurance cost, vehicle depreciation, maintenance, fuel costs, idle vehicle use time, "acts of god"--traffic accident delays, unexpected failures (wrong orders basically); should be factored into the pay instead of hoping for tips.

Then again none of this would exist if that was done.

[-] SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

~~money~~ exchange should be done away with. all it does in practice is launder good will into the violent withholding thereof

[-] myyass@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I think we in a way are headed there. Bartering and trading have always been a thing, money is an exchange medium. I got tipped a few grams of coke for changing the brakes on a friends car, I didn't ask for any money and was doing a favor lol

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago

Correct me if I’m wrong but the job is basically:

You're wrong, but it's understandable. The key point you're getting wrong is: You make money from a job.

The pay for most of the assignments you get from DD or UE is usually not enough to cover fuel, let alone maintenance on your vehicle. Certainly less than minimum wage for your time. Which is legal for them to do, because you are a contractor, paid per job and not per hour. If the customer doesn't tip, you are earning less than minimum wage at best. In many cases, you're actually paying to work, but you're forced to take these unprofitable orders just to maintain your rating and keep getting assignments. (In my area, drivers call this "eating shit")

At best, you can take about 6 assignments an hour. To net minimum wage, you need at least three of them to tip well. When a restaurant doesn't bother to start preparing the order until you arrive, the time you waste waiting is 2-3 orders. If any of the remaining orders that hour don't tip, you're below minimum wage.

It is a shitty, exploitative service that nobody should be using. If you are going to use it, be aware that the service is taking everything you're paying, and completely shafting your driver.

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago

Wow sounds like you should have found a different job than a job that doesn't make money!

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago

I did. I'm a blacksmith. I found a niche where customers are appreciative of labor, and I fill that niche. The two seasons I relied on DD for flexible income are well in the past.

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago
[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Thank you.

The reality is that every job that requires a human to perform it, if worked "full time", should fully support a human's basic needs, including housing, and medical coverage. Every full-time worker should be earning gainful wages.

That isn't happening here.

These services should either be paying workers adequately, or they should not exist.

Customers should recognize that they are the beneficiaries of these exploitative conditions. Pretending that they are not complicit is simply unethical and immoral.

[-] 404found@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

That makes more sense. It seems drivers are almost set up to fail. You can make big tips but you are more likely to get no tip or be under tipped.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

They are getting screwed over pretty hard, yeah. It's really only lucrative if you're using a cheap EV, but there are no cheap EVs.

[-] Leonardo_da_Vinci@lemmy.world 39 points 23 hours ago

Client does not need to be aware of how much each worker in the chain earns. He is aware of the price he is buying the food.

Same as delivery guy is aware of money he gets from the job. If he doesn't like the money, he should not take the job. Tips are totally optional bonus.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 19 points 22 hours ago

100%. The tip discussion is getting more and more prominent here in the UK. Please America please sort your shit out its spreading.

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[-] Xenny@lemmy.world 158 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As someone who actually makes the food I think drivers shouln't get tips but instead should be paid more. They should also have full vehicle maintenance covered while driving for work too. The whole delivery service thing is a grift that is eroding the resturaunt industry hard. If it wasn't for VC money it wouldn't even be feasable. Things will need to change soon

[-] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 119 points 1 day ago

Tipping culture is bullshit anyway. If you run a business where you can't afford to pay your employees enough without going out of business, then your business shouldn't exist.

[-] charokol@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

Tipping culture is bullshit. But if somebody doesn’t want to participate in tipping culture, they should refuse to patronize businesses that do participate in it. Somebody who stiffs people that depend on tips to make a living isn’t doing anything except being an asshole

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 20 points 1 day ago

They can afford it. But the make more when they completely shaft both the customer and the driver.

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[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 231 points 1 day ago

The customer paid for delivery already; it's not the guy's fault Uber Eats doesn't pay you enough

[-] Obituarykidney@lemmy.world 129 points 1 day ago

And the service fee, and the priority fee so it's not cold, and the mark-up on the food

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[-] cRazi_man@europe.pub 89 points 1 day ago

Conversation with the wife:

"Are you pregnant?"

"No"

"Well some asshole left his trash on my windshield. And can you believe that a 3 course meal from a midrange restaurant costs $300 now?? WTF."

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, random stuff happens and normal people don't assume something like a pregnant mistress.

One time someone left a few roses under my windshield at work on valentine's day. I assume someone mistook my car for someone else's, not that I had some secret admirer who wanted to do a pointlessly anonymous gesture.

One time someone let out the air from one of my tires overnight in my driveway, for no apparent reason and it caused me mild annoyance.

Anyway, fake internet story for fake internet points.

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