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Pro-Kremlin bloggers are warning that Russia’s centralized digital economy could collapse because the country is not prepared for the “data center war” it started, according to posts translated by the pseudonymous independent researcher ChrisO_wiki. The Russian commentators also suggested that Ukraine’s decentralized digital services could prove more resilient than Russia’s system if the countries continue trading such blows.

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The Russian milblogger writing under the name Ratio Militaris warned that Yandex’s hypercentralized digital ecosystem had become a wartime weakness for Russia, in a post translated by ChrisO_wiki:

Yandex and the digital ecosystem it created that had long been one of Russia’s advantages compared to even Western countries, has proven to be a weak link—including, and even primarily, due to hyper-centralization—both at the market level, where Yandex had become a powerful monopolist, and at the level of specific infrastructure solutions, where the entire power of the information giant was concentrated in a few (the exact number is no secret, but perhaps inappropriate to specify) large nodes—those aforementioned data centers.

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Russian companies like Yandex will also have a hard time establishing infrastructure backup systems outside of Russia to provide additional wartime resiliency. That is partly because of the “Sovereign Internet Law” passed by the Russian parliament and signed into law by President Vladimir Putin in 2019.

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By comparison, Ukraine has a much more decentralized digital ecosystem consisting of smaller data centers. It has also taken steps to build out backup infrastructure, including moving some equipment and networks underground or outside the country.

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Meanwhile, Russians may be waiting up to six months until Yandex can replace damaged data center equipment, according to an unnamed IT expert interviewed by Russian newspaper Kommersant.

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[-] eicker@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Putin spent years building a »sovereign Internet« to protect Russia from the outside world, then concentrated it into a few giant Yandex targets. Ukraine built redundancy; Russia built a shopping list for drone operators. Turns out centralized control is also a pretty good synonym for centralized failure.

[-] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago

Russia was not ready for this war. It thought so because it consumed its own propaganda and is all just yes-men

[-] Tango@piefed.ca 14 points 23 hours ago

Ironic, given that DARPA originally envisaged the Internet specifically as a decentralized comms network which would be resilient against these kinds of strikes. But I suppose it's different in a dictatorship which needs central control.

[-] towerful@programming.dev 5 points 5 hours ago

You've never experienced an AWS US East outage, huh?

[-] saimen@feddit.org 47 points 1 day ago

We owe Ukraine so much. I hope we will honor them better than we did with the Kurds who destroyed the IS for us.

[-] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 2 points 22 hours ago

Fantastic timing for the US midterms, and a great move!

Maybe that was what the disagreement between Zelensky and the Orange-in-Chief was really about? How was again the slogan, "Data is the new Oil", wasn't it?

[-] Photonic@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago
[-] spacehulk@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago

So their "digital economy" is bot farms?

[-] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Always has been, that and hackers and criminals.

[-] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago

Russian companies like Yandex will also have a hard time establishing infrastructure backup systems outside of Russia to provide additional wartime resiliency. That is partly because of the “Sovereign Internet Law” passed by the Russian parliament and signed into law by President Vladimir Putin in 2019

Let's be honest: That law will be quickly repealed or not enforced.

Good thing for them IT infrastructure is so cheap and abundant right now!

[-] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

American companies can offset some losses from all those data centers they've taken delivery off but, sitting offline right now, by selling to the russians.

Are there actually data centers that are fully equipped but inoperational?

[-] Melchior@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

Honestly it will be hard to do it anyway. Like buying a data centre worth of hardware costs a fortune and the market is mostly sold out anyway(thanks AI I guess). Sanctions do not help. If they go to a cloud they need the other site to know who they are. To transfer that amount of data we are talking about a plane full of hard drives or multiple. So Western IT companies are out. So they need one of the large Chinese IT companies to help them out and they will milk them for every cent. Those are the only ones with the data centres need to meet that kind of demand in short order.

If they do not make the transfer, then loosing that data will be a really hard loss. Imagine banking data being gone or similar.

[-] zwerg@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

That's assuming they even have off site backups to load on to a plane. AWS didn't when their Bahrain region got taken out, and I very much doubt that Yandex are better prepared.

[-] Melchior@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Ukraine just started the data centre campaign. So they still have time to make those backups, if they do not have them.

[-] Mormegil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

FAFO I guess 🤷‍♂️

this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2026
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