Conservative rural voters don't detest datacenters, they detest density, traffic, noise, etc. they assume datacenters will bring. This same "not in my backyard"-ism defeats other things that would be environmentally good, but sometimes folksy ignorance happens by chance to do the right thing.
It's too bad that Democrats are also pro data center.
There's a travel Youtuber I used to watch who goes around to places in the US to "just ask questions" to the locals. (read: looks for conservative opinions)
He has a couple of videos where he goes to natural disaster affected areas. The locals said in the Trump years the government provided more support than the Biden administration. I'm finding that kind of hard to believe considering the news stories seem to say the opposite.
Polls might go one way or the other on certain issues, but the GOP has done a good job of psychologically priming their base to reflexively default voting for them in the end.
Polls regarding voting intent have become incredibly unreliable over the last decade.
Almost like the reporting on it is intentionally misleading. Really odd.
I'll believe it when Trump is hanging from a lamppost. Until then, these headlines are disinformation and should be disregarded.
that poor lamppost... what did it do to you for you to punish it that badly?
i know. we’ll never get the stink out
Never going to happen.
Watching all the farmers on TikTok blame "Washington " for their current trade woes have taught me that they will not do one thing to change their political "views". They will never vote for the market liberals.
Strong guarantee that the data center issue is not enough to get conservatives voting for any democrat no matter how much they talk about jesus or whatever
It is seriousely beyond me that for so many people it first has to hurt them before they react. Instead of thinking long term based and not short term emotional and egotistical
I've witnessed so much of it at this point that I've come to accept it.
It still hurts to watch though. Nothing you do will convince them until they hurt just like the rest of us. Even if you tell them that it will hurt them eventually, even if you beg and plead for their own safety, until they feel that pain they won't care.
are they, or they just only vote on this single issue, and then they go right back to voting republican.
they got their abortion 'win', guns aren't being 'taken away', dipshit is doing a bang-up job hating the 'correct people' and shredding social services, and the climate change hoax is sufficiently contained (it is not, but these are science deniers)....
so i guess there's no single issue left that's calling them... so 'data centers' it is.
It's not the data centers that people hate, it's the total, absolute lack of care of human well being that can only come from conservative leadership implementing said data center, the software, the laws, the AI, the jobs, the taxes, the society, etc.
Oh wait, this isn't actually about datacenters at all, it's because Republicans are fucking awful human beings and awful at everything, and are ruining everything.
Wow! 🌈 🔔 🎉
that is why all these massive AI datancenters are mostly in republican/rural areas, they know there will be little to no pushback from the gop controlled states, or the people living there. republicans in general do not protests en masse, they may vote this one time against them.
Decades of leftist organizing couldn't do it. One server farm drinking the town aquifer to make AI slop did it in a year.
Rural American voters weren’t actually the conservative base they are today until relatively recently, at least not in all the same ways we see them today. Through the first half of the 20th century rural mine workers and even agriculturalists all over were part of progressive movements of their time.
As they say in labor organizing, the boss is the best organizer
More copium for the masses. No one is leaving MAGA. Anyone smart enough to do this would have done it back when he was found to have raped children. The rest are bought and paid for simps.
im not seeing them turn on them, except for the older voters, 65+ and even then only some of them.
It's funny I see this interviews etc... and I'm still not convinced
the dumbest rural 24/7 fox news watching, over 50 year old, truck driving, mozzarella stick and ice cream treat eating, "Applebee's, redlobster and olive garden are fancy eatin" Hogs will never vote in a democrat.
Like if Kansas, Iowa, or Nebraska flips blue maybe I'll change my mind
if Mississippi flips blue I'll go to church
Best you can hope for with people that deep in the red mindset is to discourage them from voting. They can't bring themselves to vote for a "Dumbocrat", but if they hate their own party's option enough, they won't vote for them either, just stay home in miserable despair.
That's what we have to hope for.
A shitton of voters will NEVER vote for a Dem, no matter how bad things get. For some it's gun rights, for others it's being anti-abortion or anti-LGBT, and most believe liberals are EXTREMISTS because Fox News pounds that into their brain 24/7.
With how close our elections typically are, you don’t need to convince every single one, just picking away at the fringes should be enough
Nothing will push them to vote Dem.
They may vote for an independent candidate or not vote at all, but they will not vote Dem, regardless of how many Dem policies align with their own.
Some of them actually will. Not everyone who dumbly voted for Trump is a hardcore magat, it just looks that way on social media
I live in maga central and I do know people who've changed over to voting for Dems.
There's really no need for this level of cynicism. I understand why you feel this way but it doesn't help anything.
independants are really just aligned with the gop, as spoilers.
No they aren't. I live in a rural area and independents are basically moderate Democrats without the branding. It's the only way to win local elections without being in the GOP. And they do win elections pretty regularly
That defeatism is exactly what the fascists want.
Is it really defeatism, though? Simply not voting at all could turn tides. And it's not like Republicans haven't proven them right again and again and again and again. Republicans are conditioned HARD to never, ever consider voting for a Democrat.
Obama won in 2012. Trump won in 2016. Then a bunch of his voters switched and Biden won in 2020. And then a bunch of his voters switched to Trump in 2024.
It seems inarguable that a critical number of voters are absolutely capable of changing their minds.
What you’re missing is that not the same amount of people voted in all of those elections. 2012 and 2020 had high voter participation, 2016 and 2024 did not. Trump got fewer votes in 2016 than Romney did in 2012. If everyone who voted for Obama in 2012 had also voted for Clinton, Trump never would have won.
Same thing with ‘24, if everyone who voted for Biden in ‘20 had voted for Harris in ‘24, we never would’ve had Trump 2. This is why I think Trump isn’t very popular, he just wins by default when the Dems run a bad campaign or have an uninspiring candidate (side note, I totally think America is ready for a woman president, just not Clinton or Harris specifically)
Just wait until they hear about what billionaires are doing to their children.
I'm not convinced that MAGAs would actually see a problem with that...
What they took away from that seems to be they were right about pizza gate in some way. I wish I was kidding
Yea.. my super maga dad is all pissed off about data centers. Don't think it would get him to vote dem, but it did sway his primary vote towards an anti DC candidate.
we aint all that happy with them down south neither
Turns out »bringing the future to rural America« is a tougher sell when the future arrives as a windowless warehouse guzzling water and electricity while your bills climb. Republicans get the backlash, Democrats get the votes, and both parties get checks from the same tech lobby. Truly bipartisan innovation.
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