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[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago

Good. It ain't important, until it suddenly is.

[-] HappyCatLuvs_U@lemmy.world 135 points 22 hours ago

deckard-linux-no-oopsies GitHub repository

😂 No oopsies allowed guys, this is serious.

I truly believe a good way to see if a company has had its soul removed is seeing how completely scrubbed of any levity it is internally. This is a great sign imo for how steam runs.

[-] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I'll have you know that's a very serious technical term .

[-] ivan@piefed.social 39 points 22 hours ago

TF2 source code comments are just beautiful.

I mean, I’m certainly guilty of having to tidy up codebases before shipping, to remove all the goofy stuff and swear words, so these comments just make those Valve employees very relatable for me.

[-] bad1080@piefed.social 8 points 20 hours ago
[-] mofongo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 18 hours ago

Is there a place i can read them?

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 13 points 18 hours ago

TF2 source code

[-] Klox@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

The rule is to keep the swear words in the Git commits.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 51 points 20 hours ago

Are people plugging cd-roms into their steam frames? That seems impracticable.

[-] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 15 points 14 hours ago

article has the original request in relation to watching a movie on a trip

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 17 hours ago

Maybe virtual ones for some funky emulation reasons?

[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Most VR usage is watching movies in a personal home theatre, the rest is porn and maybe like 5% gaming

The Xbox One is exactly the direction VR should be going to meet the market, but weirdly they're doing the opposite

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

The Xbox One is exactly the direction VR should be going to meet the market,

wait what?

please expand on this, I'm baffled by what you mean.

[-] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

The xbone was launched as a media platform first, and gaming console second. Everyone hated that decision. I guess op is suggesting that it makes more sense for vr.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

At least this one person, yes

[-] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 27 points 22 hours ago

Why bother disabling cdrom drivers in the first place? It comes with the kernel for decades and costs virtually nothing to load.

[-] Schemen110676@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago

KISS

Keep it simple and stupid.

Anf that means dropping feature thay arent in use anymore.

[-] klankin@piefed.ca 115 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

The kernel has a ton of optional modules that they'd be stupid to include them all. They certainly don't need support for an obscure Quebec companies GPUs that stopped producing in the 90s.

Its pretty standard operating to cut out any cruft you can, saves on storage, boot times, etc. This one was probably saving milliseconds and kilobytes, so presumably not much thought was given to disabling it, nor needed to reenable it.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 84 points 22 hours ago

Again?! An unwarranted attack by the anglophones against the Québécois GPU artisans!

L’enterrement de cyber-crapaud!!

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 21 hours ago
[-] Sturgist@piefed.ca 11 points 18 hours ago

Ouuuuu....you done fucked up.

[-] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago

Wannabe Frenchies, the French don't care about them.

[-] klankin@piefed.ca 12 points 21 hours ago

Mon Dieu!

L'américaine ne pas bien!

(Oh god please don't fry me for my French, this was attempted without AI translation and a very long gone French education)

[-] Cheesus@lemmy.ca 8 points 21 hours ago

Maudit anglais !

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago

The existence of it also adds another potential attack vector for hackers. It's unlikely that this would be a real problem, but any additional software is just another place that could be exploited.

[-] klankin@piefed.ca 10 points 20 hours ago

Thats a really good point, especially with the more obscure modules.

It must be interesting for steam to develop a hackable device in a market that usually locks their hardware down so aggressively.

[-] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I mean just because steam doesn't mind you tinkering with their own hardware doesn't mean they should not try to secure the base system OS against outside intrusion (like a RAT entering in via an AUR installation using modules as an entry point)

[-] klankin@piefed.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, sorry I meant more in the way that a user in a VM is a really different threat surface to a full root user.

For sure both should apply security patches, and avoid malware, I'm just wondering even within that model what the differences are.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The kernel has a ton of optional modules that they’d be stupid to include them all.

True but part of Valve's marketing for Frame is the expansion slot, so at least peripherals compatible with ARM hardware were probably meant to be enabled and this was an oversight.

[-] klankin@piefed.ca 4 points 20 hours ago

Thats valid, and due to the speed of the update I wouldn't be surprised if it was already in their testing suite.

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[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 33 points 19 hours ago

Not everything is included by default, otherwise kernel gets larger for no reason as do possible CVE issues. Its good practise to only include what is needed.

I had to add CDROM drivers on my Linux machine when I added an external CD after install.

[-] riskable@programming.dev 35 points 22 hours ago

Have you ever configured the kernel? As in make menuconfig.

There's a zillion options in there and best practices dictates that you only enable that which you need. For example, why would you enable support for sound cards that don't exist in your board? Beyond wasting space, it could enable some vulnerability discovered in the future.

Example: My PC doesn't have a MIPI DSI display connector (or support for one on the motherboard), so why would I enable support for that in my kernel? Sure, I could compile it as a module and let it sit there, taking up a few kilobytes of space on my hard drive but why?

It makes no sense to support CD ROMs on a VR headset so I completely understand why they didn't enable the driver. Even though it's a "real PC", the Steam Frame is still embedded hardware.

I want to know why this person wants CD ROM support! The Steam Frame has at least a 256GB SSD and a Micro SD card slot. Just put the ISO (or .bin/.cue files) on one of those and mount it like any other loopback filesystem or use FUSE cdemu (yes, Linux has support for that built-in; unlike Windows haha). It'll be a zillion times faster and a vastly superior experience!

Aside: Yes, I know Windows 11 can natively mount an ISO file but it only supports a limited subset of the filesystems that you can find on CD/DVD ROMs. So unless the image is ISO9660 with the Joilet extension or UDF, it's not going to work. Example: Trying to mount a PS1 CD ROM works in Linux but not Windows. Not without 3rd party stuff, anyway.

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[-] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

yeah that's that good shit I like to hear.

[-] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 22 hours ago

It would have taken 1 minute without bureaucracy because it's a single line in a config file.

[-] calliope@retrolemmy.com 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

“Bureaucracy” like finding the config option, running tests, and committing to source control would all build up to more than one minute if a human does it.

It’s extraordinarily common to underestimate how long easy things take though!

I totally believe it took less than ten minutes. I don’t believe it would take less than one.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 19 hours ago

Also this guy when Valve releases something with a bug: “Why don’t those clowns at Valve care about software quality and testing‽ “

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 6 points 21 hours ago

1 minute is still less than 10 minutes.

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