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submitted 3 days ago by Heikki@sopuli.xyz to c/europe@feddit.org

Made in October 2026. Each country's rule was read from its own law or transport authority on 24–25 Oct 2026; every source is linked in the full table: https://copilot.travel/maps/winter-tyres

A few things that surprised me:

  • Estonia requires winter tyres 1 Dec–1 Mar whatever the weather; Finland 1 Nov–31 Mar only when conditions require.

  • Germany only accepts tyres with the snowflake (3PMSF) mark in wintry conditions; old M+S-only tyres no longer count.

  • Caravans need winter tyres too in Finland, Sweden, Estonia and Lithuania; in Germany, Austria and France the rule only covers the towing car.

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[-] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 3 days ago

Denmark doesn't have a separate law about winter tyres, because it's already covered by the overall traffic law, which only states that the driver is responsible for not using obviously unsuitable tyres.

In practice, this is the same as in Germany. In snow conditions the tyres must have the "snowflake in a mountain" marker, or the police can write a fine.

The reason for not making a more specific law is that some people prefer to drive summer tyres all year round and just not drive on the few days when there's snow.

[-] boonhet@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Summer tires lose grip in cold temperatures even without snow so if you get negative temperatures, driving on summer tires is pretty irresponsible even without snow. Technicallh the crossover temperature for when winter tires start having more grip is above freezing but nobody really cares yet at like 8C

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Idiots call winter tires "snow tires". It's about the temperature.

Ontario refuses to enact a winter tires law despite 6 different coroner's inquest concluding winter tires would have saved lives. But, we also don't safety inspect vehicles. Wheels fall off every day.

[-] Heikki@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks, that matches what we found. The map shows Denmark as "no winter-tyre law", with the note that since 1 July 2025 "obviously unsuitable" tyres for the conditions can be fined (Færdselsstyrelsen, linked in the table).

One small difference from Germany: the Danish authority says M+S tyres count as approved winter tyres and only recommends the snowflake mark for hard winter driving, so it isn't required the way it is in Germany.

[-] neidu4@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Some nuance about Norway: Winter tires are allowed year round, but the studded kind is only for specific months: From Nov 1st to 2nd day of Easter holiday (because loads of people cross a mountain range or two during Easter). For the three northernmost regions, it's from Oct 16th to April 30th. In other words: when you're likely to encounter winter conditions on the road.

But one rule trumps all of the above: Tires should be suitable for the weather/road. So you can use studded tires whenever you have a reasonable reason to do so; I was stopped during a routine traffic stop and asked about my set, and I was going for a long drive across a mountain the week after. If you're on summer tires during winter conditions, though, you'll probably get a pretty hefty fine.

I put mine on last Friday, by the way.

[-] Mojitas@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

It's basically the same in Sweden.

[-] Heikki@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks, that matches what we read from Statens vegvesen: studs from 1 November to the first Sunday after Easter Monday 16 October to 30 April in Nordland, Troms and Finnmark, and longer when conditions call for it.

That's why Norway is shown as "wintry conditions at any time" the grip rule is the one that decides. And Oslo's stud fee applies even when you only drive through ofcourse.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Uhh why does ukraine and belarus have a different not included grey than russia? Hungary, poland, etc are one shade, ukraine, belarus, etc another and then russia a third.

[-] Heikki@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

The shades are close. Three on purpose: the lighter grey (Poland, Hungary, the Netherlands) means "no winter-tyre law" the darker one (Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova) means "not verified / not covered" we only map what we can read in a countries own law or traffic authority, Russia is just the base map, outside what is covered

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Ahhh okay thats logical, maybe you should add that to the legend too so its less confusing

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Never even thought about there been laws forcing different tires per season. Do people just randomly have 4 extra tires in their homes to change when the time comes?

Maybe I should be glad to be in a country with no snow.

[-] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 3 days ago

If you're in a country where there's is snow or just cold temperatures, you don't "randomly" have 4 extra tires. You literally need them for at least a few months. Typically you'd swap over in late October, then back in March/April depending on how it's going. Swapping them yourself is trivial enough, but it's also incredibly cheap to get them swapped at a shop.

Note that at least last I checked, the proper transition temperature isn't "freezing" or "there is snow", but about 7-8°C. That's when winter tires will have better grip, and summer tires grip steeply diminishes below this. Once there is actual snow, your just actually up shit creek with no paddle on summer tires. But if you have to emergency brake at like 3°C for example, it makes a significant difference what kind you got on your vehicle.

[-] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Do people just randomly have 4 extra tires in their homes to change when the time comes?

That's how many people do it. For people who don't have the space at home, automotive workshops offer seasonal storage of the extra set of wheels as a service.

Maybe I should be glad to be in a country with no snow.

It's not only about the snow, by the way, it's also about temperature. Winter tyres don't only have a different tread more suitable for snow, they are also are made of a a different (softer) rubber mix than summer tyres to provide improved grip at lower temperatures. You can use them in summer, but at the cost of increased wear. If you're using up winter tyres that have too little treading left to be safe for another winter during the summer, you will save some wear on your summer tyres.

[-] Heikki@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago

Pretty much yes! In the Nordics and the Alps most families own two sets, usually each on its own wheels (then you can change them by ourself, slo many times theres somekind of storage or you can use storaging and changing as a service), so the swap takes half an hour at home or a few minutes at a tyre shop. Many don't keep them at home at all: tyre shops run "tyre hotels" that store your off-season set and swap it for you twice a year.

The other route is all-season tyres with the snowflake-on-a-mountain mark (3PMSF): in most countries with a winter rule, Germany included, they count as winter tyres, so one set does the whole year. Where winters are mild that's the usual choice.

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Pretty useful info. What a strange and alien concept, tyre hotels lol. But it makes more sense like that.

[-] Heikki@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, totally get that, in ever smaller housing and apartments in cities price of storing winter tires might not make sense anymore. Ofcourse it also makes other funny things like people remembering their cars bolt pattern when someone has useless round of wheels at their storage and such.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

summer tires harden in cold temperatures, making them less grippy even without ice or snow. and winter tires get too soft in warmer air, meaning they stretch more, which can lead to overheating and blowout. so you do need both. there are some tires that are allowed year-round, but they're less efficient.

also it's usually not just extra tires, but complete wheel sets. that way you can change them yourself.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

You can store the tires at services that swap them in spring and summer. In Canada, insurance companies offer lower rates if you use winter tires because they have the data that shows winter tires users have fewer crashes.

Every November, first icy day countless idiots in expensive cars with summer performance tires end up in guardrails. Because, when you spend $80,000 for a car, ain't got money for the right tires.

[-] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Every November, first icy day countless idiots in expensive cars with summer performance tires end up in guardrails.

We have the same kind of morons here in Germany. I am looking forward to meeting them again soon. /s

Because, when you spend $80,000 for a car, ain’t got money for the right tires.

I really don't get those idiots. The tyres might very well be the most important (safety relevant even) parts on the entire car, because they provide the interface to the road.

[-] Humanius@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

These days there exist four-season tyres, which to my knowledge meet the requirements of countries that require winter tyres in winter or wintery conditions.

[-] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Those all season tyres are really just a bad compromise, I wouldn't bet my life on them. And with the tyres being the interface to the road, responsible for keeping the car on the road and making it stop in a timely manner when you hit the brakes, you are literally betting your life on them.

[-] Humanius@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They are still functional tyres. I've been driving on all season tyres for years now and it's never been an issue.
I live in a country with a relatively mild climate, so we don't really get extreme winters or summers. All season tyres are plenty good enough for the occional light dusting of snow in winter.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

All season tires are a marketing term. It's not possible to make rubber formulas that work across a 50 degree temperature range. If they did work in cold weather, then would wear quickly in hot weather.

[-] PissaIFrysern@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 days ago

While they do meet the requirements they are objectively worse than dedicated winter tyres in the winter and vice versa for summer. As a Norwegian I'd never trust all season tyres in the winter, at least not here in Norway. Non-studded winter tyres work good enough in the cities, but studded tyres are the best regardless of where you drive in the winter.

[-] Humanius@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

As a Dutchman, I just don't want to get fined when driving into Germany. Preferably without breaking the bank.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 3 days ago

yeah but the tradeoff is you'll use more fuel.

[-] SrMono@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

The major trade-off is the time and distance it takes to brake and that the tyres get stressed more heavily in comparison to seasonal ones.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 3 days ago

yeah they're just less good overall

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Do people just randomly have 4 extra tires in their homes to change when the time comes?

Yes. Either that or the spare set of tires is stored where they get their tires changed (and checked) twice a year.

PS: It's a set of wheels including tires (often the cheaper steal rims as that's not the stuff you drive fast with anyway...) for those having them at home of course. I would not actually change tires myself...

PPS: And as it's completely normal, it's not unusual to get a used car with a second set of wheels.

[-] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

PS: It’s a set of wheels including tires (often the cheaper steal rims as that’s not the stuff you drive fast with anyway…) for those having them at home of course. I would not actually change tires myself…

Yes, a wheel change is easy and can be accomplished by a trained monkey, but an actual tyre change for a car is kind of difficult and doing it properly requires bulky special equipment (at very least a balancing machine) only very few people have at home.

[-] SrMono@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

Yes. Either that or a workshops holds them for you (🤑).

[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't have to change my tires but I do. They are stored in my shed, but people who don't have space at home may pay for them to be stored at the mechanic's facilities.

On days with fresh snow I often see several cars in ditches on my drive to work. I live in a rural area and have also had to dodge out-of-control cars and trucks so I want to make sure I can depend on the grip.

Eta: I once skidded right through an intersection on a red light because I was in a rental on summer tires. Never again lol!

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

First ice day and all the wankers in pickups are in the ditches. They think those blocky tires are ok for winter, and the bought a vehicle with all the weight concentrated over the wrong wheels. Everything about pickups is stupid.

[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 points 2 days ago

True facts!

I didn't have a car until I moved out here and my first car was the cheapest AWD I could find. Next we got a hybrid with fwd and I had to change the way I drove to compensate for the lack of power in the back.

I couldn't imagine being that high up on a rwd on all seasons 😬

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 3 points 3 days ago

Yes even in places where there's no legal requirement because it is better to do that and because insurer can fuck you up if you don't have correct tyres

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Only if you told the insurer you fit winter tires and you don't.

[-] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

Do people just randomly have 4 extra tires in their homes to change when the time comes?

Yes. Although, for my company car, they are stored at the dealership who in turn have three old shipping containers behind their building that they have fitted with custom tire shelves to store customer wheels off-season.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

There are also all season tires (marked M+S I think) that work through all the year but not particularly well in any season. The problem with changing tires is winter tires life span which is typically 5 years. Thus if you don't drive much, you end up disposing not much used ones every 5 years resulting in ecological and financial problems.

[-] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

Decent all season tires have both marks (M+S and 3PMSF) and are accepted in all countries.

You are right that the tire is a compromise, but in practice the better all season tires are convenient and sufficient for most drivers, especially in countries with a predominantly mild climate. Their biggest downside is cost vs mileage.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

The downside is also that they are not good in either season.

[-] boonhet@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

IIRC 3PMSF aren't actually all-season, they're winter tires. You can use them in the summer if they don't have studs though

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Crashing is a ecological and financial problem.

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