Demanding I disable my ad blocker is a pretty good way to disable my interest in visiting the site.
I'm not disabling my adblocker. That shit is unsafe.
Disable my adblocker?
No, I don't think I will.
I think you should stop using 4chan x
Cloudflare is a cancer upon the internet.
Yes but AI being the cancer on cancer made companies who didn't previously have to use cloudflare turn to cloudflare to prevent the inscessent constant DDOSing of AI users and companies.
+1.
I. Fucking. Hate. Cloudflare.
It's such a huge % of the internet now. Intercepted by cloudflare. Which says I "passed". But then, gets stuck in an endless reload loop back to the cloudflare page. And never forwards me to the site itself.
Sometimes it does work. But at least half the sites, it doesn't. Totally normal things. Like recipe sites. Or a site cataloging vintage toys.
This shit is making the internet unusable for anyone who tries to keep their privacy from the co's that track every click you ever make, every site you read. I get it, sites need protection against DDOS attacks and stuff. But there has got to be a way w/o so much collateral damage.
It's probably because of resistFingerprinting in about:config.
Unfortunately sites need to use them or someone similar to not get attacked to shit by AI bots. Websites could turn off the challenges (which are that captcha) so Cloudflare just absorbs DDoS attacks, then use the open source Cap inside the site on things like the log in page and comments instead.
It's probably because of resistFingerprinting in about:config.
I have it set to false, though... 🤔
Weird thing is it fails on pages infected with cloudflare (says browser not supported), but cloudflare's own test page claims everything works properly.
It must have something to do with NoScript, but I have everything remotely related to cloudflare set to trusted, so I don't know what.
Works in incognito mode, but I don't want to navigate the webwithout ad blocking.
You can enable ublock (or any extension) to run in incognito mode too (edit: my mostly default ublock settings play fine with cloudflare)
Oh my god yes. I fucking hate Cloudflare. Everything about it is just awful and unfortunately so many websites are using it now.
For me, this is evidence that I am navigating to a page that I don't need to navigate to.
Sadly, all of the small shops in my country for electronics and hobby stuff all have these pages (you don't need to disable your adblocker for cloudflare challenges) because of AI. They didn't have them a year and a half ago.
Ai companies have been DDOSing all small websites so badly that they have to use this (or Anubis) in order to actually have a usable website for actual humans.
Yeah I'd rather just load a different page.
Not disabling my adblocker for any reason.
Honestly on ublock for most websites it’s pretty easy to just delete the “turn off your adblocker” popup. Some websites genuinely won’t work with an adblocker on though unfortunately.
I do this first. If it doesn't work then I like those above your comment just go elsewhere. If they are the only one then I wait for it to show up on an archive site. If I actually need it then I break out the day job skills and write up custom adblock scripts to bypass their detection. I'll spend hours doing it out of spite. Then I write up scripts that clear my cache and refresh the page over and over and over when I'm not using my PC to drive up their hosting costs.
Plenty of other pages on the www : )
Or it's time to check the way back machine or archive.is
Archive.is is the worst offender for this. The only page I can't get to load, just keeps showing the goddamn cloudflare and refreshing back to it.
I've had that happen to me on archive.is 🙃
And if you need to use the site?
Most alternative pages nowadays use the same techniques as wellm
You find a bypass script that is anti-adblock detection. If still? Who cares it will show up somewhere else soon. If you need it now even though I doubt your use of the word need here then up to you but I've never had to go this far.
now i kmow AI is awful for just about everything, but one thing they've got going for them is that they may be able to summarize any page on the internet and bypass all manner of restrictions. alternatively there's also the google web archive which shares googlebot findings (often whitelisted) or other archival sites, or reader mode
i absolutely agree. Sometimes I am wondering why the AI can access all pages (even local ones or open models hosted on other servers), but I am marked as a robot every time 😅 Who's the robot?
True about Javascript since almost all webpages nowadays use it and all use cloudflare as well. But since when does the Cloudflare verification need you to disable adblocker? It never happens with me. I am using Ublock Origins.
It doesn't. Some webpages have redirects that instruct you to enable javascript, disable ad blockers and disable vpn. But that makes the 'joke' fall flat.
I wonder if anyone even disables ad blockers when they see the actual message because even if I might enable js, I've never, not once, disabled ad blocker or vpn at a website's behest.
comparisons like these reveal how often companies take advantage of people through rhetoric, when the majority dont know much
I imagine this is why the page specific off button in uBlockOrigin is really big; to allow more of the pseudo-random menu detectivery that happens in this situation to find it instead of disabling uBO completely in the settings.
But this theory kind of insinuates people who don't care about not being advertised to are dumb (or maybe I just thunk that, because I think you have to try knowing things about browsers to be smart).
You fail checks with an adblocker? I have never had that happen with Ublock origin or Adnausium.
Btw you do not need to use adnausium if you are using ublock. It handles that for you. You can look at the settings to select extra configs should you want
I know, that is why I said or not and.
No no. I think what this prompt is doing, is dishonestly presenting a fake "stuck" captcha check and dishonestly leading the user to believe it's their ad blocker that is to blame, thus tricking them with this "strategy" to disable it.
I have adblockers, private DNS, and other tools enabled and have never once failed a Cloudflare check. Google recaptcha on the other hand asks me about motorcycles, traffic lights and busses literally dozens of times in a row.
Google recaptcha on the other hand asks me about motorcycles, traffic lights and busses literally dozens of times in a row
I bet you're using a firefox based browser. There was a brief period years ago when google captchas worked blazingly fast on firefox. This was shortly after mozilla very publicly denounced google for intentionally sabotaging firefox users.
I found it depends on your user agent rather than ad blocker...
Really? Do you have a source for that or at least what user agents apparently gets cloudflared and don't? Geniuely curious
Just my personal experience, your mileage may vary 😅
I was getting blocked when I used any fake user agent using a user agent switcher firefox addon. But maybe they were just detecting the addon, or maybe a bug in the switcher allowed them to detect the discrepancy...
Ah, I see
not ever using that site anymore strategy no %
They're both the same picture.
see, the moment that i see an ad is when i re-enable my adblock. at the latest.
If a site doesn't work with adblock enables I don't use it. I never turn that shit off. There is nothing on the internet I need to look at badly enough to do that. If the entire internet stopped working with adblockers I'd stop using it.
I just enable captcha.cloudflare, not all JS
Still doesn't always work on Waterfox.
I do not bother myself with websites that use cloudflare anymore.
So like, 75% of the web?
Unironically, yes. If there was no alternative, I access the archived version. This is not by choice, my browser for some reason cannot process cloudflare captchas.
reasonable tbf
Don't think I've had an adblocker mess with the verification, but I often have to green-light a few things for cloudfare (or other verifier) in uMatrix.
uMatrix was awesome. It's a massive shame it didn't get any more updates, because it started breaking important sites (like bank authentication) for me just by the addon being enabled even if I turned it off from its own toggle, so I had to switch to NoScript, which is simply worse (far clunkier interface and consistently fails to show all domains).
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