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Muse maker Interaxon reportedly trained AI on users’ de-identified brainwave data, then revised its privacy policy after journalists asked questions.

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[-] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

I'm sorry but, who in their right mind trusts zuck the cuck?

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Muse sleepband?

Oh yah, this can't possibly cause problems

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

At this point, assume anything associated with the company called "meta", "Facebook", or other related properties, and anything relating to their AI "Muse" is probably harvesting your data to train AI, or it is being sold to third parties for advertisements.

The service is "free" because you are the product being sold. They don't charge the trees for taking their apples.

Also, assume anything to do with "AI" or any company that has their own "AI", as well as anything publicly accessible on the Internet, is being used as training data.

Be sure to interject white text on a white background of poison training data. People won't see it, and AI will get so fucked up in the long run.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Muse are a band. I will never not think of the band. It's a stupid name for AI

[-] endless_nameless@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago

Why anyone would connect a brainwave scanner to the internet and the wear for 8 hours every night it is beyond me. I've run out of sympathy. This is like slathering yourself in blood and jumping into a shark tank.

At a certain point, personal accountability for your privacy has got to enter the conversation with normal people.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 72 points 2 days ago

I hear what you are putting out there but I can absolutely sympathize with the users. I suffer from chronic insomnia. My worst episode was when I go no more than 90 minutes of light sleep per 24 hour period for a stretch of about two months. It landed me in the hospital, on suicide watch, paranoid, and a lot more.

Once sleep gets bad for long enough, you'd try anything.

[-] karashta@sopuli.xyz 37 points 2 days ago

I stopped smoking weed to get a job in my late twenties and stopped sleeping more than 2 hours at a time for months.

People who get sleep just don't know how bad it gets and how low the quality of life gets.

[-] erinyes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago

idk how people with insomnia keep it together. ive had some stretches of being unable to get to sleep, or having a really hard time getting to sleep, or waking up really easily, and i swear after a few days of that i was ready to commit a murder. lack of sleep makes me Crazy. idk how anyone could deal with that for months. my condolences.

[-] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

Weed and sleeping pills. Would have ended it otherwise.

[-] searabbit@piefed.social 22 points 2 days ago

What are "normal" people to you? Because usually that excludes the disabled and those with poor health, and those are the most vulnerable to health data privacy violations. You don't have to care about other people's privacy at all if you're so exasperated, but when your health fails you, and it will, you will also find yourself suddenly not so concerned with where your data is going as long as you can get the medical care you need.

[-] endless_nameless@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

Hey ding-dong, the interaxon muse is NOT A MEDICAL DEVICE. You're acting like this is only product in its niche. Guess what? There are a million different snake-oil obvious scams for people to choose from in the medicinal pseudoscience field that don't connect to the internet.

You should do even a single minute of research before scolding someone on something you clearly know very little about. This is not medical care. If it was medical care, it would be covered under HIPPA or whatever country's medical confidentiality laws.

[-] bluespin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

You're correct, but it doesn't mean we should stop giving companies bad press when they fail to disclose data sharing like this. Shifting the blame to users only normalizes this behavior for companies offering these products

[-] the_Interceptor@lemmus.org 3 points 2 days ago

Money, probably.

[-] DeadEndLink@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago
[-] CptLawnChair@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

No he isn't present. He has long since has said "fuck no" and has traveled to an alternate universe

[-] AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

'Muse' and 'Sleep' are both bands. This really confused me.

[-] MrSelfDestruct@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

They collect your data when you listen to them

[-] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, well, joke’s on them! I’m collecting data on them about what kind of songs they write and perform!!

[-] bilb@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are some muse songs I really like, and they are my biggest guilty pleasures. Why am I so ashamed of liking them? (Time is Running Out, Knights of Cydonia)

[-] Trail@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Why would you be ashamed of liking knights of Cydonia for example? Ain't it widely recognized as a great song?

[-] bilb@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I think it's recognized as, at least, catchy.

I personally think I shouldn't be ashamed of liking either of these songs, they are good songs. Socially, though, they were a bit embarrassing. Too dramatic, probably. Not ironic enough.

[-] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago

"Muse anal probe users weren't told that the collected data was used to train AI" - stop using Meta products, you dimwits.

[-] mriormro@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

The year-long investigation found that Canadian company Interaxon, which makes the Muse sleep and meditation headband, was using the data that it collected from users’ brains to train AI.

RTFA

[-] blubasaur@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Company known for creepy unethical practices creates new product no one wants for even creepier and even less ethical practices.

Seriously, i couldn't care less if it was the most magnificant product in the world. If its from zuc the cuck I'll skip it.

[-] CedricWhaley@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

It's not. Meta has nothing to do with this.

[-] blubasaur@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Fair enough, I still stand by the 2nd part, but that makes it kinda neither here not there.

[-] Kirp123@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

We're getting closer and closer to that bit in Futurama where they beamed ads into your dreams.

[-] RedSnt@feddit.dk 19 points 2 days ago
[-] Sims@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

People should probably start realising that Capitalism is completely incompatible with Privacy. ..and incompatible with 'freedom', and 'Democracy' and in general, incompatible with any type of nice world to live in, environment, bio diversity and so on.. Its not even necessary for 'innovation', 'incentives' or any of the other made up claims..

Not sure why some people still support that harmful anti-scientific/ideological belief system, but I guess the Oligarchs constant propaganda and manufacturing consent has something to do with it. Oh well..

[-] pipi1234@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You put it beautifully. Still most people have fallen in love with the golden idol of greed.

I heard somewhe this: A lot of people believe they are one win away from being rich, while they are really two missed paychecks from being in the streets.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

If it connects to the internet don't connect it to your body. Finger prints, face ID, blood sugar, brain waves, online DNA services.

What does that even mean? If you're using the device as intended, it collects a few changing numbers while you're presumably laying in bed asleep. You can train a computer to be able to answer "If somebody is wearing a brain wave monitor and these are the readings, is that person asleep?" Maybe they can infer sleep quality? These types of scanner cannot tell what you are thinking.

[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 5 points 2 days ago

I honestly don't know what they expected. Or why they'd pay money for the thing in the first place.

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Same shit that Oura ring wearers or people who upload exercise or sleep data are doing, but scarier. F this.

[-] Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

black mirror irl

[-] sleepthief@piefed.social -4 points 1 day ago

Like people aren't wearing smart watches or generally using smart phones and laptops. It's a bit naïve to think we haven't already added our data into companies

[-] mriormro@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

You should learn to value your privacy.

[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe -2 points 2 days ago

"de-identified"... Right

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