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If there is one thing you shouldn't cheap out on imo it's the storage.
There is probably some iron triangle to be found there; cheap, large capacity ,reliable ; chose two.
You can have all three of those, but you won't get great performance. The Samsung QVO SATA drives are a great example. I wouldn't use those for an OS drive but they're fantastic for NAS or media use.
So not fast. Which means the original still holds true.
Oh I agree with your post, but I was responding to Valmond who used different criteria.
Personally I have focused on fast SSD storage and utilized the vast, cheap, slow storage available with mechanical drives for backup.
At the end of the day, if an SSD fails, you're effectively just screwed. If a mechanical drive fails, there is some possibility that the data is recoverable. But moreover, mechanical storage is so cheap by volume that you can just have redundant backup and never worry about it, really.
I thought that SSD fails “better” than HDD because SDD become read-only first.
Only when they get to the end of life of the cells. If there's another failure before that, it's likely a full failure.
Thanks. In that case is it known which of those two possibilities are most likely?
To my knowledge, that isn't a consistent pattern (someone please correct if wrong).
According to @postcard64 below I’m oversimplifying things (at minimum).
So far I've been following recommendations from this person: https://old.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/comments/16xhbi5/ssd_guides_resources_ssd_help_post_your_questions/
Someone convince them to move to lemmy
They’ve at least created a website that houses the SSD tier lists, buying guide, etc: https://borecraft.com/
The point is to run TLC drives. SLC drives of that capacity are too expensive and are thus not recommended.
WD Green /shrug
I’ve been using all Red Pros since I first built my nas, but it started with a couple of green 2TB that where in there for like 7 years before being replaced (didn’t die yet)
Same, we're ones of dozens I'm sure but I've been running a mix of WD greens and Seagate barracudas in a hardware RAID5 array for over a decade. Only had 2 drive failures over the entire time with no data loss. But yeah... would advise against that if possible
Your local network is probably 1Gbit or 2.5Gbits so you’ll be good with SATA as an aux drive, say a Samsung 870 QVO. I’d recommend running a smaller NMVe as your main one.
Or even USB 3+, should that be cheaper.
I’d recommend the QVO for storage needs, and I’ve seen 8TB versions go for $400 so I’d say it’s insanely cheap considering it’s still an SSD and saturates the SATA protocol.
Soon SSD-based RAIDz1.
I have 8 of these in 4tb. They are wonderful and ive not had a single issue
Transcend ssd220s (4tb SATA) can be found for really nice prices.
Even had a thread about this one on Lemmy cuz I wasn't sure how good it is (it's great).
Perhaps running a mirror or a stripe array would be more important than selecting drives that don't fail. Then you can pick whatever that's not complete garbage. That said, it would likely still be more expensive overall.
Been using Sabrent Rocket SSDs for awhile. Been reliable and fast. They aren't the cheapest SSDs, but they perform well and don't break the bank.
My only Sabrent Rocket SSD i had started failing within 6 months. Got it in Jan, cut it into pieces and threw it away in June.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| NAS | Network-Attached Storage |
| NVMe | Non-Volatile Memory Express interface for mass storage |
| RAID | Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage |
| SATA | Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage |
| SSD | Solid State Drive mass storage |
5 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 15 acronyms.
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A SATA ADATA SU800 died on me after 4 years of use. (Luckily I had a weekly harddrive backup so I lost almost nothing! :D)
Samsung, WD, Lexar, Kingston generally are known reliable name brands (but Samsung warranty doesn't work well in Canada). If you watch !bapcsalescanada@lemmy.ca like a hawk (Canada's PC part sales mirrored from Reddit) you may find the occasional deal that is at or under $50/TB Canadian (roughly 36 US$, 35€)
E:I noticed it hasn't posted in a couple days, wonder if it died or got banned
Used enterprise SSDs is what I'm running, bit of work to filter down the results on eBay though.
I use enterprise drives because they're cheaper and more reliable.
Got some 4TB enterprise NVMe for 150 each. They only had 3TB written, basically brand new.
I've been running a couple ADATA Nvme drives since 2019. No issues and they're fast.
While it doesn't see much use (sporadic), my 'value' Adata nvme drive has been solid and performing as expected in my gaming laptop; also from 2019.
Running 2x ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro M.2 NVMe, 500Gb for OS and VMs and a 2Tb for games and documents.
I figured it was worth the gamble on this cheaper brand since everything important is synched/baked up to my server.
AAANNNDD that server is synched to my old NAS.
ADATA nVme, SATA m.2 and SATA are my go to for cheap upgrades for laptops and have had no problems with them. Even have a few in external USB cases for large capacity, fast, portable storage and they work great.
buffalo, SanDisk, Samsung have all done me well.
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