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[–] Senokir@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't ever let anyone forget or brush under the rug the horrible acts that occurred in Tiananmen Square on June 4th, 1989.

https://www.history.com/topics/asian-history/tiananmen-square

[–] balerion@beehaw.org 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hey, tankies, decent countries don't have to violently suppress their populations and then lie about it. Oh, and socialism is worker ownership of the means of production, not whatever the fuck they're doing in China.

(inb4 people assuming I must support the US since I hate China)

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Decent countries. What a slippery slope for supremacist thoughts.

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Ah yes.

Being against China's racist genocide is racist.

China, the imperialist ethno-state, is clearly innocent.

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[–] gzrrt@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Meanwhile in Taiwan, the island's equivalent of the Tiananmen massacre from the KMT dictatorship (the 228 incident) has its own memorial park and museum.

No need for a self-inflicted legitimacy crisis when you respect your citizens' basic rights.

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[–] elouboub@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure I understand China's reactions here... if nothing happened, then why not just let them congregate and "remember" something that supposedly didn't happen? What's the harm? If they were blocking traffic or riots were involved, it would understandable to want to stop it, but if it's peaceful, where's the harm? Unless of course, something did happen that they want people to forget...

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

China doesn't say nothing happened, what they say is that counter revolution happened, and it was effectively suppressed. Why would you let someone celebrate the equivalent of an extremist movement?

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Corrupt, murderous dictatorships rarely tolerate accurate recollections of history.

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[–] nahoskins@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow. There's a lot of CCP folks working the federated space.

[–] FaceDeer@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One of the big instances, Lemmygrad, is basically dedicated to that crowd. If the influx of Reddit refugees doesn't counterbalance them then at some point I'll probably move to an instance that doesn't federate with them.

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[–] Solaris1789@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow a post on lemmy denouncing the CCPs actions instead of denying them or even trying to justify them? Thats rare

[–] Senokir@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I plan on actively posting to counter the constant barrage of tankie propaganda that is very clearly an issue here. Misinformation is a very real issue that we face in our society and unless we actually do something about it, it will only continue to get worse.

[–] Tretiak@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Don’t get ahead of yourself. Most people ‘vastly’ overestimate their ability to spot propaganda.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Why not post about the atrocities committed by the USA and their allies on their anniversaries then?

Might get exhausting posting every day.

[–] soulless@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Having been a life long socialist myself, it's a bit mystifying to me how anyone can believe that the atrocities commited by the US somehow makes the PRC or Russia in any way deserving of praise.

For sure I'd like more people to call out the American genocide of its natives, or honor the heroes that fought for their emancipation during the time of chattel slavery.

But I'll be damned if any of those atrocities will make me defend the human suffering caused by the Chinese or Russian regimes. To me, being a socialist means standing up for the little guy, judging a society by how we care for those who have the least. The only us vs them struggle there is, is the one between the working and the ruling class - not the one between east and west. Idolising Zedong only puts another Emperor on a pedestal. I say fuck them all, western or eastern rulers and billionaires, they're the real enemies of a social and equal world.

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