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[–] appel@lemmy.ml 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I switched back to Firefox a few months ago due to the incoming Manifest v3 debacle and I'm glad I did, it's an excellent browser.

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's really come a long way in the past few years. It used to be so slow when Chrome came in to take over

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

That perceived slowness comparison lasted less than a year!

[–] sep@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Agree compleatly. Been using firefox since it was called mosaic

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I didn't know this was a phase of it's existence

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Yeah it went Mosaic, Netscape, Firefox iirc.

Edit: And I think Netscape was a full rewrite as mosaic was owned by the university it was originally coded in, again iirc. That was a LONG time ago.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Netscape was Firefox? Somehow I never learned that. I fuckin loved the little space animation when a page was loading.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago

That's because it's not true. Firefox was first called firebird for a brief time... Otherwise its most closely related to the Mozilla browser... Netscape and mosaic aren't even related to each other... I don't know what this guy is smoking.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Netscape was my first browser on the beige apple desktops in the elementary school computer lab. I knew about it going on to become Firefox but not of anything before that. I still miss some aspects of the internet of that time.

[–] kspatlas@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Mosaic, Netscape, Mozilla, Firefox

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

So long ago that I had to go and use on a Sun workstation in the machine room because it wasn't available for windows yet!

[–] marker2002@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Wow. That's some blast from the past.

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's a red panda isn't it?

[–] shmanio@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From their "Firefox name FAQ":

A "Firefox" is another name for the red panda.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Fuck me, I love learning, thanks for that.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm mainly using Firefox on my devices and have zero regrets.

I also enjoyed Vivaldi over the other chromium browsers. Still sticking with FF for now. The only issues I've had are Ms teams not loading, though km assuming that's related to 3rd party cookies ( even though o365 outlook works fine ).

MSteams is a dumpster fire in and of itself though. Even on my Windows pc it crashes when sharing my screen.

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I switched mostly too. Cannot say that I have zero regrets, but FF is mostly up to what I need it to be. And where it isn't, there's Vivaldi.

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[–] crsu@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago
[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I switched back to Firefox maybe 9 or 10 months ago after using opera gx for a while. Firefox had been great, and I love that they keep fighting the good fight, so to speak.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Opera GX, just like anything related to Opera, is a massive pile of shit.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

These are pretty terrible arguments.

  1. Google is a primarily advertising based company yes, but Apple and Microsoft aren't
  2. You can't compare chromium to IE - chromium is open source, and also it's actually good
[–] chocolatine@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The issue is the rendering engine monopoly. Apple and Microsoft browsers as well as chromium all use chrome rendering engine making them basically the same browser under the hood.

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[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 5 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Any Alternative to Brave? I have FF as primary browser but for some websites which tends to break on FF, I would like to use something non-Chrome/Brave on Windows.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Librewolf sounds like Brave, but built on top of Firefox. It also doesn't spam you with stupid ads like Brave does.

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 6 points 11 months ago

But my alt should be Chromium based for the weird cases.

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Librewolf is better I think. It's pretty much a privacy hardened Firefox with the telemetry taken out. No odd crypto scheme like Brave either.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

No odd crypto scheme like Brave either.

That's a great point

[–] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

FF is primary but started using Vivaldi as my chromium based browser.. I'm definitely not nerd level privacy geek but it hits all my check boxes for configuration, customization, and ease of use.

[–] Dougtron007@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I keep chromium as a secondary if something breaks on Firefox. It’s the foundation of chrome without all the silly Google shit.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dougtron007@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks, this is what I’m looking for.

[–] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use edge for the edge case when websites don't work after changing the user agent

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[–] Mars@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

If the site breaks on Firefox, probably it only works in chrome based, so I’d say just use ungoogled-chromium.

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[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I'm on firefox and I love it, but developing sites for chrome...

[–] DirtyCNC@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

If you're reading this and not using Firefox, do yourself a favor and don't wait until 2024 to switch.

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[–] gsf@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Trading the article, the CEO is meeting the assigned goals exceptionally well. The CEO does not give themselves the raise per se, but the board does, right?

As it turns out, moving away from Firefox is exactly Mozilla's plan.

Earlier this year, Mozilla laid out their vision for the future of their organization -- and it did not include Firefox.  The focus for the future of Mozilla -- according to Mozilla -- is primarily based around Artificial Intelligence services.

In fact, Mozilla leadership stated, quite plainly, that they intend to take Mozilla "in a different direction."

When you consider the goals of Mozilla... the decreasing Firefox marketshare is no longer much of a concern.  In fact, moving revenue away from Firefox, while investing in A.I. systems (and other subscription services) becomes the primary goal.

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

How do you switch to Firefox if you use Firefox?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

oh cool my favorite thread again

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

Also librewolf, a more open version of FF without the shit like Pocket

[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

81% of mozilla's revenue is from Google. "Firefox is the only major browser not built by a company that makes money from advertising and/or selling your personal data." They just make money from the company that makes money from advertising and/or selling your personal data.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Why wait until 2024 to switch when you can switch RIGHT NOW?

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