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[–] jjsearle@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I find too often that ChatGPT will just make things up when asking things outside of the basics. Most of the time it is just quicker to search for official documentation and read it than relying on ChatGPT's answers being right.

[–] peteriskrisjanis@toot.lv 3 points 2 years ago

@jjsearle @dl007 it can't be right. It can be lucky but I feel that is not what we are looking for.

[–] Butterbee@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

I stopped using google much because of google. But no, I have not replaced searching on the web with a chat bot.

I've definitely supplemented some of my queries with chatgpt questions however I'm very concious of hallucinations, so I'm pretty iffy with it right now.

[–] Terryble@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

I write software for a living and I find that ChatGPT is useless if you're just trying to explore for answers since it makes up answers a lot of times. For those instances (which is a majority of the time), I still end up using Google. It is pretty useful if you've already narrowed down the scope of your question and you're just asking ChatGPT for suggestions on how to implement a solution that you had in mind.

I personally have not used Google much in the past 3 years since I discovered Brave browser

[–] Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

No. You can't trust ChatGPT to give a reliable answer to anything, really.

[–] shufflerofrocks@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No lol

ChatGPT sucks at proper answers in my experience, I tried using it to generate code or summarise documents for me, but it sucked at both.

I can google well enough to almost always get what I need, but I can also see areas where google search is pretty shit right now - almost everything non-tech related that I google gives me a shit feed of SEO-keywords-bloated pages that have no actual content.

Problem is, I don't think any search engine still comes close to Google. I've tried DuckDuckGo, and it's crap in my experience.

I've had good luck with Yandex, but everything else is meh.

What are your search engine recommendations?

[–] mortrek@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I hate that Google no longer allows literal strings. They keep removing features from their "core" product... You can put something in quotes now, and it will still substitute it with other stuff, including what it thinks are "corrected" or "other" spellings, which are often completely different from what you are actually searching for.

[–] realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] dl007@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah,I tried pretty basic ,it often not answering question like chatgpt would, simply list the 5 links to questions,some question get answered in summary way..

@dl007 Hmm. I found it gave me some fair answers when I use it

[–] shufflerofrocks@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I haven't, I tried Bard but it was not great either, so didn't bother with SGE.

Is it any good?

[–] realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@shufflerofrocks #SGE is far better than #Bard. Although I don't mind #Bard myself.

One nice advantage that #SGE has over both #Bard and #ChatGPT is that it largely refers to relevant up-to-date information. So if you want to ask such an engine about current events, #SGE is the best chat system to ask.

[–] shufflerofrocks@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ahh SGE does sound nice, I think I'll give it a go, then. Thanks for the recommend

[–] cavemeat@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I moved to a non-google search engine. The problem with ChatGPT is that it sounds very plausible and truthful, but is often just making shit up.

[–] noodlejetski@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

it sounds very plausible and truthful, but is often just making shit up.

I've seen someone call it "mansplaining as a service".

[–] unnamedau@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ooh, i'm borrowing this, thank you

[–] noodlejetski@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

don't scuff it!

[–] Mersampa@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

It helps to understand what ChatGPT is, and what it isn't.

ChatGPT does not understand anything you say. And it only does one word (technically part of a word, but to keep it simple) at a time.

What it's doing is it is guessing the most likely next word based on the words that have come before it. If you think of you phone's keyboard, it probably has word suggestions for what to say next. ChatGPT is like hitting the recommended word over and over until it has an answer. It's spouting words based on how likely the word is to come next. That is all.

It uses advanced machine learning to do that, but whether it counts as AI is for the reader to decide. But it's certainly not planning out a thoughtful answer for you.

And that's not even taking into account that the training data largely comes from the internet, the place where people continuously make shit up.

[–] Barbarian@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ChatGPT is absolutely NOT the right tool for the job if you want answers to questions. People need to understand that ChatGPT is not an AI. It doesn't even have the concept of truth and fiction, let alone the ability to differentiate.

It is a very sophisticated and very advanced autocomplete, using probabilities to attempt to predict the next word (or tokens, if you want to get technical) over and over again until probability says it's done. It's great for writing boilerplate documents without any facts it has to get right, creative writing (although it tends to produce very cliche text, understandably) and boilerplate code that's been written millions of times before in its training data. Do NOT use it for anything where facts matter.

[–] zergling_man@lemmy.perthchat.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

World's most complicated 8ball

[–] ThePJN@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hehe. This! Saw someone refer to it also as "spicy auto-complete".

How Italians use autocomplete

[–] raj@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I prefer chatGPT, but it's more.cumbersome to use on the phone than Google Assistant.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Get an app called voice gpt. Allows you to talk to it.