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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 139 points 2 years ago

This is a reflection of America ... not of Trump

The fact that someone this corrupt continues to have a political career says more about America than anything else.

[-] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago

it says a lot about the political coverage in the media and half of the voting population, but I'm not sure it says something about all of us. some of which were raising alarms and flags for 50 years (I'm not that old but I know people that were) and were ignored. sometimes intentionally.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago

In history it's often portrayed as thirds.

A third is complicit in supporting fascist ideology

A third are active in fighting against fascist ideology

And a third are ignorant of any side and don't care if one or the other is supported so long as they are able to eat, have shelter and get by.

It's the ignorant masses that are the most volatile because all that's needed is a brief moment of their attention to change the course of history.

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[-] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

In Norway, we have had a wave of politicians leaving their minister posts or other high positions due to tax evasion on use of governmental appartments, small incidents of inside trading and lack of citations/plagiarism on their master thesis. It all seems so small nd innocent comparred to what Trump has done while still running strong for his party.

[-] UnPassive@lemmy.world 108 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"I'll vote for him again because he isn't like the other corrupt politicians"

-My dad

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

To be fair, Trump is his own class of corrupt.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

You should hear about the fucked up shit his dad did with coney island.

[-] Keineanung@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Well now you're teasing. Please do tell.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Like he demolished Steeplechase, ruined the gut, and displaced African Americans, and forced them to live in old Sumner camps that weren't designed for winter occupation while not letting then in Trump village, AND collecting relocation fees peer family. https://youtu.be/r6XCs652VDY?si=N-WpoQzxmTk1ez_D

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[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

Your dad is correct but what he's either leaving out or failing to realize is that he's more corrupt than other politicians. He isn't like them because he's worse.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 102 points 2 years ago

Only banned for 3 years though...

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago

And only banned from serving as an officer or director. Engoron cancelled the dissolution order, so he keeps his real estate holdings and his ownership interests.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago
[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Yep, it's not like whoever works for his companies isn't going to take direction from him, regardless of whether he has a title or draws a salary.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 87 points 2 years ago

Honestly, the whole ruling is utter bullshit based on both the amount of fraud and Trump and his lawyer's behavior in court.

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[-] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

He’ll either be dead, hiding out in Russia or Saudi Arabia, or president by then.

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[-] snooggums@midwest.social 21 points 2 years ago

It really should be permanent based on the scope of fraud.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

3 years might be long enough to let the big macs catch up to him

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago

In his unconventional style, Justice Engoron criticized Mr. Trump and the other defendants for refusing to admit errors for years. “Their complete lack of contrition and remorse borders on pathological,” he said.

Borders. Sure.

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[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

Republicans: “man, I just can’t think of a better candidate than this convicted fraudster. He can defraud the world and make America great again, again, again.”

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

He defrauded everyone else. Surely he won't defraud us.

  • Republican voters
[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 40 points 2 years ago

The financial penalty reflects those lost profits, with nearly half of the $355 million — $168 million — representing the interest that Mr. Trump saved, and the remaining sum representing his profit on the recent sale of two properties, money that the judge has now clawed back from Mr. Trump and corporate entities he owns.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago
[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

This is actually a massive win.

3 year ban from serving as an officer or board member, but doesn’t have to give up any companies, and retains ownership?

Given the rampant corruption and fraud and how long it’s been going on; that’s the least that should have happened.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

$354 million here...
$83.3 million to E. Jean Carroll
$5 million on the first E. Jean Carroll case..

So $442,300,000 - Yow!

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

He better start writing some checks before there's a land rush for Trump Tower.

Because of the $100 million debt, Forbes magazine calculated the tower's net worth at $371 million

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

He has to wait to grift money from his cult of followers to pay for this again. $100 says they make merch to sell off this shit.

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[-] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 years ago

More like maga cult will pay in donations 350 million *

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

he's only barred from controlling his businesses for 3 years? that doesn't seem like a big deal

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

He may not live another three years (hopefully).

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Trump is a loser.
This is the takeaway we need to impress on a MAGA crowd, that is immune to all the immorality and treason.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Could this ruling result in criminal charges or are there already proceedings underway in this matter? I mean, the judge has determined that Trump is personally responsible for fraud amounting to several hundred million dollars, right? Accordingly, he himself is banned from doing business in the state of New York for the next three years, which makes it clear that Trump himself has been found to have committed fraud. But is that all? Fraud on this scale must also be criminally relevant, mustn't it? Or is it really possible in the USA to get off the hook simply by paying a fine, even for such serious criminal misconduct?

[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

OJ Simpson was found not guilty criminally and guilty civilly. It's a thing.

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[-] sunbytes@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Come up with the money or secure a bond within 30 days

Or what? Does anyone think he's actually going to pay?

He's going to Alex Jones it at worst, and at best do the same but smarter.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago

Does anyone think he's actually going to pay?

Then they seize his assets to cover it. Trump Tower goes to public auction.

[-] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago
[-] elbucho@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

Well, there wouldn't have been prison in any case from this trial, as it was a civil suit, not a criminal one. But, he is facing 91 felony charges in total spread across a few cases that are currently working their way through the court, so maybe. Probably not. But maybe.

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[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

This Friday afternoon martini is going to taste extra delicious.

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