Steam Deck

I don't like this line of thinking because especially now where new games seem to always suffer from performance issues, it lowers the bar that these developers feel like they'd need to set as far as the experience they're offering for their games.

I think the minimum standard should be at least 60fps, in cases with steam deck and other low-end hardware of course concessions must be made, so either lower graphics settings or deal with lower framerates.

But there's no reason a new game should be suffering poor framerates on modern desktop hardware (looking at you Dragons Dogma 2).

It's because of the screen. Low frame rates are much less impactful on a small screen. When the screen takes up most of your field of view, you notice the frame rate more.

It's not you, its the screen.

I've been playing some PS1 classics on my PC, and I can safely say, playing FF7 at 240 fps does not meaningfully improve the experience over what it was back in nineteen ninety eight.

I've never needed high frame rates. What is more important is consistent frame rate. I'd rather have a consistent 30 than a range of 40-60.

I'm getting kinda tired of the slideshow snobs, telling everyone how 30 FPS is enough. The games are supposed to be fun, and not cause nausea. I'm willing to compromise on the former, but not the latter.

I the portability of the steamdeck. Years ago I had a desktop gaming PC that over time I used less and less because the lass thing I wanted to do after sitting at a desk all day was to sit at a desk some more.

I bring my deck with me when I travel for work, go on vacation, when my wife and I spend the afternoon at my parents. I'll even bring it with me if I have to bring my car to the shop and I have to wait. I play games in my recliner, and in bed. I've never been a frame rate snob so the steamdeck suits me just fine.

theres a lot of factors that impact tolerance. for example motion blur. I personally hate a lot of post processing effects, so having motion blur off makes low fps gameplay pretty jarring.

Currently im going through pokemon violet, not on my switch, but on emulation, and the 30fps is really rough, and the 60fps mod has tradeoffs. If im complaining about ot on emulation on a reletively high end pc, I couldnt even imagine how bad the performance was on native hardware, given it was one of its biggest complaints.

Probably has something to do with the screen size. 30 fps on a small screen is way less exhausting on the eyes than sitting Infront of a 27" or bigger screen.

This depends on the game and the viewing distance + screen size for me. 30 fps in a tbs game like civilization is perfectly fine for me, but too slow for an rts like total war. 60 fps in total war works for me on the big screen living room tv, but I find it too slow on a desktop computer screen. I expect shooters with jumping and fast turns to benefit even more from faster fps than my rts games, but it's been years since I played one.

Never really had the privilege of being a frame rate snob. My teenager years was pretty much playing games that my computer didn't have the minimum requirements to run.

Now I am a steam deck owner and I am very happy. My only complaints are when games have really bugged UIs or when controller have these nonsensical key binds you can't change like L3 + left D pad (Path of Exile).

I've intentionally kept myself desensitized to higher frame rates over the years. I'll occasionally go up to 60fps on some titles that really need it, but usually if I play most everything at 30fps I never am bothered by it.

I've been solid in my belief that framestes are for suckers. In my experience anything running at 60 fps is fine, probably 30 even. I have to stress myself to really take note of fps in any meaningful way.

I find framerate more noticeable when I'm closer to the screen. Which is why I don't mind the framerates of my phone/Steam Deck, but on a desktop monitor 60 Hz is not enough

I still love my high frame rates, but playing with a controller is much more forgiving in that regard and i mostly play games with no camera controls on the Deck so it is perfectly fine.

As someone who used to play mostly on older consoles with framerates locked at 60 or even 30 FPS I never really understood framerate snobs, the only real time I see it making sense is for VR since you need high frame-rate for that, but for normal games (no I will not call them 'flat games') it's overkill, at least in my opinion.

Me when my fps are capped by my i5 3450 and not my gpu :x