Huh?
"Demagogy is the action or fact of winning support by exciting the emotions of ordinary people rather than by having good or morally right ideas."
Are you saying that fedi isn't a morally good idea?
I agree that morals should fuel our discussion and not emotion, but I'm sensing strong emotions from you.
Regardless, I see what you're saying because I've built things like this. I specialize in abstractions in my work-- Strix Music is a prime example of that.
@yogthos You're describing a Platform, but we have an actual oligarchy of tech platforms now. When they get too big, they just become power grabs, hence why Mastodon and Lemmy and fedi in general started picking up recently.
It's not worth even a scrap of good UX if these platforms can take away our voices on a whim. Fedi is on the right track.
Also--- nobody is telling me. I've been doing this for over a decade.
@yogthos MVVM stands for Model-View-ViewModel, and is a pattern commonly used in dotnet and winui apps for decoupling backend business logic from frontend UI.
For example, this: https://youtu.be/Nb6fEeYfDAU
I feel like I'm the one being trolled here.
What on earth do you mean by "no app provides APIs to access the business logic layer outside the UI?" These apps are using APIs to begin with, the app doesn't NEED to provide them. The devs provides them to the app, the other way around.
@yogthos Nobody in their right mind couples UI to business logic, we have MVVM for that and it enables some very impressive integration and UI switching in apps.
However, thinking at the application level is ignoring everything I just said about the ways that apps communicate.
@yogthos Everything, this entire thread and several others that people have started with you.
It's worth saying twice:
The client-server pattern perpetuates power imbalances, and "Super apps" make that problem much much worse.
@yogthos They literally JUST banned and unbanned Tiktok at the whim of an annoying orange, and Twitter as we knew it is dead because of a rich billionaire.
You're glossing over real problems in the name of good ux.
@yogthos Right so are you saying we should make the problem bigger?? I'm confused what you're trying to say here
@yogthos Building walled gardens apps where you control everything is easier than building a walled garden OS where you control everything.
One is an App and the other is an OS, but both can be turned into a "walled garden trap" for consumers.
"But they did it" isn't an excuse to do it more. We have enough of this going around already with Apple and X and WeChat, governments and tech bros trying to maintain control over the masses. Nah.
@yogthos I've enjoyed our discussion, but I don't appreciate the strong language, the projections, or the claims of others projecting in order to defend your own projections. Thank you for engaging with me, see you around.