[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

I think the advantages of multiple communities outweighs the advantages of consolidating. Especially since things can be cross posted between the multiple communities easily

No longer able to access the content is referring to the federation. And the difficult to move off is referring to for example communities that have been attempting to get traction to move off of lemmy.ml

Not posting in the community doesn't mean people there don't interact with it. I have beehaw as an example on hand but im sure there's other federation examples

I think its the kind of subject matter that fits programming.dev well and relying on outside instances for programming content with no mirror on our own site makes us too reliant on those other instances if anything happens in the future (e.g. extreme case but if that instance goes down. Lemmy handles it terribly since the community still exists as a ghost community with no federation but still viewable)

With similar logic we have a lot of the same communities as lemmy.ml communities including programmer_humor, opensource, etc. To give people an alternative spot to the lemmy.ml communities and so that we aren't overly reliant on other infrastructure we can't control within our instances subject matter

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sites back. I reindexed every table although the only one that seemed to be affected by the issues was the comment table (it had duplicates I had to remove similar to what I did for the post and community tables before)

Site will slowly catch up in activities over the next couple hours so youll see posts, etc. that were made in the few hours it was down slowly come in

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Its fixed in the build im working on now and will be back soon. Just finishing up one other feature

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

No thats not a feature currently

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If youre not part of one of the instances/countries that submitted a song theres an other option when voting

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Note that the votes are currently only public to admins, there was an issue to extend that to mods that are modding the specific community the upvote is in but not sure the status on that

edit: seems to have been merged in a day after 0.19.3 released so it would probably be in the next version

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fediseer tends to be what most people use to track and list this sort of thing (and its whats used for this instance)

https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/censured?page=1

A lot of blocks people have are of mastodon instances as well so if youre only interested in thread content that probably needs to be taken into account as well since mastodon instances tend to have more people than lemmy instances

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submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by Ategon@programming.dev to c/gamedev@programming.dev

Hey everyone. wanted to do a post about this since the gamedev community recently quadrupled its monthly active users.

Currently this community accepts all topics related to game development. However due to current activity levels for certain kinds of topics, things other than news posts can be easily drowned out if all kinds of gamedev news posts start being posted.

Therefore im proposing a new community is made for certain categories of gamedev news. Essentially what will happen is:

  • The new gamedev news community will accept anything related to news in the gamedev space. This includes things like engine news, tool news, gamedev company news,
  • This community will no longer allow gamedev company news and generic gamedev news that isnt related to developing a game

These two communities have a bit of overlap with things like game engine news. For example unity deciding to self destruct is valid in both since its something people developing a game would want to know (but things like articles on people reacting to that, etc. isnt)

Examples:

valid in c/gamedev

valid in c/gamedev_news

valid in both

Im going to make a couple replies on this post. Feel free to upvote which one you want to vote for (im not counting downvotes)

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Call for admins (programming.dev)

Hey everyone, just wanted to do a post looking for a couple more admins for the instance

Currently most tasks have been getting done by snowe or I with snowe handling most things in the backend and me for things people see such as community management

So that tasks are spread out a bit more and so that I can focus more on things such as building up our new frontend just wanted a couple more people to help out with various tasks

Mostly looking for people to help with community management in the instance. This includes

If you dont have much history in the instance send me a link where I can see past chatting (e.g. mastodon, reddit, etc.). We also are using discord as a platform for the admins to talk to each other so you have to be able to use that

If you want to apply feel free to dm me or say so below.

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Fediseer Synchronization (programming.dev)

Hey everyone, quick update on the instance

Ive synchronized our instance to fediseer which means we will start pulling blocklists from certain instances and then adding that to our own.

I have it set up where it will pull blocks for certain tags such as csam, pedophilia, poor moderation, etc. from instances like lemmy.world, lemmy.dbzer0.com, etc. so that that kind of content is able to be handled more quickly if one of those admins gets to it before us.

Should mean that you have to worry about content that breaks the rules even less and be able to enjoy the site more. If a site im pulling stuff from starts blocking instances for the wrong reasons ill remove it and revert the blocks but shouldnt happen for the ones ive added (and soon there will be a feature where I can set stuff like only block an instance if 50% of chosen instances have blocked it)

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Pangora Week 2 (programming.dev)

Hey everyone. back with a weekly progress update on pangora

Ive set up the Pangora-UI repo a bit more to make contributing to the project easier. Theres a contributing.md file where I walk through the different things the project uses and theres now issue templates for bug reports and feature requests so you can easily add one of the two here.

Theres now a functional log in page for the frontend and when logged in it replaces the log in and sign up buttons in the navbar with your profile picture (and when clicked opens up a dropdown)

Logging out works as well


For communities ive added a hide community button for admins that when clicked hides the community from the instance. This makes it so that no posts from the community show up anywhere on the site but the community itself still shows up. When a user subscribes to the community then posts show up for them normally again (but only them).

This was built into the lemmy backend but did not exist in lemmy-ui. The feature is useful to do things like stop bot communities (such as lemmit.online communities) from spamming the instance but still allow users to see them if they want


Ive started work on the modlog to get that starting to function

Currently only have removed comments and removed posts working and theres a load more button at the bottom that you can click to load the next 50 actions in the same page

In addition theres a local sort tab where you can see anything related to your local instance. This shows things that involve a moderator on your instance, a user on your instance, or a communtiy on your instance

(user is blank there as the removedpost action doesnt give user information)

Will be working with the backend next to try to improve this a bit more since currently theres things like me not being able to fetch only local actions and needing to filter through all actions (which can make pages appear blank sometimes due to no local actions done recently)


Ive started work on a logo for the project!

This is my current draft of one that ill be using for the next bit. Eventually ill be refining it a bit more

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Hey everyone! I’m Ategon one of the admins over in programming.dev

I noticed theres been a lack of a bridge of communication between the various fediverse platforms. Lemmy has our own little matrix space that people in lemmy have been talking to each other in, kbin also has their own, and mastodon doesnt really have a central location for pure communication

As such ive started up a Fediverse Hub matrix space so that we can all talk to each other and get on the same page. Hopefully from this we can also work together and discuss to get the cross platform federation working better between the various platforms (instead of things like the mess that is the current Mastodon & Lemmy interactions)

If youre a developer of a fediverse platform, an admin of a fediverse instance, or want to check to see whats going on feel free to join

https://matrix.to/#/#fediverse-hub:matrix.org

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Hey everyone! I'm Ategon one of the admins over in programming.dev

I noticed theres been a lack of a bridge of communication between the various fediverse platforms. Lemmy has our own little matrix space that people in lemmy have been talking to each other in, kbin also has their own, and mastodon doesnt really have a central location for pure communication

As such ive started up a Fediverse Hub matrix space so that we can all talk to each other and get on the same page. Hopefully from this we can also work together and discuss to get the cross platform federation working better between the various platforms (instead of things like the mess that is the current Mastodon & Lemmy interactions)

If youre a developer of a fediverse platform, an admin of a fediverse instance, or want to check to see whats going on feel free to join

https://matrix.to/#/#fediverse-hub:matrix.org

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Federation updates #2 (programming.dev)

Continuation of my last federation update post with some updated info

Hexbear

After we got removed from the hexbear allowlist I talked with one of their admins about it. Theyre running a poll currently for their users to determine if they want to refederate or not with opinion in that poll seeming to be mostly in favor

It is very likely we will be federating with Hexbear again. However, things such as political communities will be hidden from our feeds by default meaning you wont see those posts unless you explicitly subscribe to those communities (so if youre just browsing the all feed you wont see any of them)

In terms of comments made in other instances that aren't hexbear or programming.dev (e.g. lemm.ee) that is up to the admins of those communities to handle (and if an instance has defederated from hexbear such as lemmy.world threads in their instance will have no hexbear members on them)

If you participate in the hexbear instance make sure to follow their code of conduct and dont participate in communities that are labelled as being for hexbear members only (I should be hiding any that exist)

If theres a community I missed that should be hidden reach out to me with it and ill hide it. Hidden communities will show up with no posts when you look at them without subscribing

And to leave off this update ill give you guys a couple hexbear communities that might be relevant to you once federation is up again

https://hexbear.net/c/gamedev https://hexbear.net/c/technology https://hexbear.net/c/games

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submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by Ategon@programming.dev to c/meta@programming.dev

Hey everyone, ive got pangora-ui (our new frontend being built (!pangora@programming.dev) to a decent enought state where I can start doing mod actions from it

Due to that ive managed to implement a community hiding system to make certain communities' posts not show up by default so that we can now fully follow our rules in the sidebar

Communities that are hidden

  • Will show up as having no posts
  • Will not have posts show up in the feeds or from searching

However if you subscribe to a hidden community you will then be able to see all of their posts like normal in every location

Hidden communities will still be findable themselves in the community list and from searching


If you are currently subscribed to hidden communities you should see absolutely no difference in your ability to view them

You should however see the all feed getting more manageable to navigate and sort by new now that it isnt being drowned out by bot posts

Communities that are currently being hidden include: communities that are 50% bot posts or more and politics communities

For bots this includes communities in instances like

  • lemmit.online
  • derp.foo
  • (the bot art community in) lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • zerobytes.monster
  • radiation.party
  • lemmy.smeargle.fans

Quick comparison between our all feed sorted by new vs lemm.ee's so you can see what hiding bot communities did


You may still see a couple pop up since I havent dealt with all of them yet but the amount of bot communities showing up will get lower and lower over time

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Federation Updates (programming.dev)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by Ategon@programming.dev to c/meta@programming.dev

Hey everyone! Wanted to give a quick update on some federation status with other communities

burggit.moe

burggit.moe has been defederated from for two main reasons

  • They ignore DMCA requests and dont follow it. We get a copy of all of their posts due to how federation works and since this rule is instance wide it can easily apply to a new community in the future if we purge current ones. We dont have the manpower to handle other instances continually breaking the law and then us needing to deal with that with takedowns

  • They post pornographic content that is illegal / in a gray area in the US that I would rather err on the side of caution in terms of allowing due to things like the PROTECT Act and certain states explicitly banning it themselves

hexbear

Hexbear defederated from us so to prevent one way conversations I have added them to our blocklist as well. If the hexbear admins decide to unblock us I can do the same and go back to the previous stance of hiding their politics related communities from the all feed once that feature is implemented into the site

Misc

There are a couple misc pleroma and mastoton instances that ive added to our blocklist (and there are a couple more I might add soon) that post content that is extremely against our rules. As they arent lemmy instances purging communities isnt an option and its allowed instance wide

if you have other requests of instances that clearly break our rules (you can find them in the site sidebar) feel free to send me them and ill take a look

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Programming Horror (programming.dev)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by Ategon@programming.dev to c/adopt_a_community@programming.dev

Community currently being moderated temporarily by me

Needs some dedicated mods to manage it

If interested say so below

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[Done] RegEx (programming.dev)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by Ategon@programming.dev to c/adopt_a_community@programming.dev

Community currently being moderated temporarily by me

Needs some dedicated mods to manage it. Its a low traffic community and most of the posts would be help posts

If interested say so below

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submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by Ategon@programming.dev to c/pangora@programming.dev

Back with another update on Pangora-UI. Ive been working on adding the community list as well as making the entire thing semi-functional

Ive got some basic functionality in for most things and next up im going to be going through them one at a time and adding in all relevant features starting with the homepage.

I worked on the community list showing all communities in the instance, and all connected instances. This by default has the same information as lemmy-ui but you can toggle columns on and off to tailor it. (For example you can add a column for users/day, remove the comments column, etc.)

Communities will have badges on them if they fulfill certain conditions (top most condition here has priority)

  • New (full star): Communities made in the last week
  • New (half star): Communities made in the last month
  • Active: The top 2.5% communities in terms of subscribers gained in the last day (Maximum 5 chosen in local and 20 in All)
  • Hot: Top 10% of communities in terms of the most recent subscribers relative to their total subscriber amount (Maximum 100 in local, none in all)
  • Top: Top 5% of communities in terms of the most total subscribers (Maximum 100 in local and none in all)

Communities in the list have up to 100 characters of their description so that you can get an idea of what the community is before clicking on it

The list supports infinite scrolling, loading the 50 next communities when you get to the bottom

Community stats are now colored based on how high it is compared to the highest value for that stat. Blue is the highest and it goes down through green to red

Ive cleaned up the theme switching a bit and also added a button for it in the navbar

Communities and their posts can now be viewed (no sorts or pages for now)

Added a little donation area

Added a custom 404 page


Comparison between Pangora-UI and Lemmy-UI


Next up from me will be home page cleanup to fix some issues that have been happening with that and adding in features to it

Progress may be a bit slower from me from now on as university is starting back up but ill share something every week. If anyone else is also interested in contributing let me know. We have a matrix space at https://matrix.to/#/#pangora:matrix.org

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

yeah its not the best system but its whats built into lemmy right now. Probably going to look into changing it

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah lemmy has issues with federating things a lot of times

The moderator federation at least should show you eventually. Tried hitting appoint as mod to see if I can get it done from here but it just loads forever. Worst case an account in that instance can be used to mod or that account can try modding your p.d account

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

yeah thats one of the possible options in the vote (option 1 is anything goes, option 2 is same but also guides people for their future posts on that topic after they posted something) if you want I can note one of those down as your vote

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 3 years ago

Search for either the url or !communityname@instance in the search bar with it set to all and then you can navigate to it using a link

Ex. for ttrpg if you want the rpg community you would search for https://ttrpg.network/c/rpg in the search bar

And then you can get to it from https://programming.dev/c/rpg@ttrpg.network (make the link manually in this format)

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah advertising in r/Godot would be nice. Looks like youve contacted the mods but if you want me to be the one to post let me know. I'm fine with you posting if you want though

I'll also try to get the community on https://godotengine.org/community/

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