milicent_bystandr

So, I didn't mean instances treated unequally in the grand, set-in-protocol scheme of the fediverse - as if some centralised authority/agreement that this instance counts for more than that. Just as defederation doesn't make meta's instance authoritatively illigitimate.

But an instance can choose, within that instance, to defederate with another; likewise an instance within itself could deprioritise some or all others' instances' votes.

Still agree dangerous precedent ...but still wonder if some sort of instance-controlled moderation of external content is eventually necessary in the future. Or, I suppose, there could be separate services (much like ad-block lists) that users individually could enable to auto-moderate/adjust their own feeds.

And (sorry for waffling!) I suppose it depends a lot on how much you browse specific communities and how much you scroll "all" or whatever. Back in the before-days, I'm used to subbing to very few communities, and generally lazily browsing r/all

I agree it would be a dangerous precedent.

Thing is, though, every instance is not equally valid and legitimate: that's the reason for defederating from Threads.

Not sure what you mean by what Gmail and Microsoft did to email? Do you mean that they assume many unknown email origins are spam? Though Gmail's obviously attracted a lot of users, and I myself have moved off it now to paying for my email provider elsewhere, I was under the impression it's been quite good for email and for pushing secure email, and being good at anti-spam.

Yeah, that's the idea

Edit: but I was thinking the result to be specific to your instance, rather than a fediverse-wide vote-rank standardisation.

So, e.g. to a viewer signed into lemmy.ml votes from within lemmy.ml would count more; but to the member of ispamlemmywithhate.crap, votes from ispamlemmywithhate.crap would count more

I wonder if it's possible ...and not overly undesirable... to have your instance essentially put an import tax on other instances' votes. On the one hand, it's a dangerous direction for a free and equal internet; but on the other, it's a way of allowing access to dubious communities/instances, without giving them the power to overwhelm your users' feeds. Essentially, the user gets the content of the fediverse, primarily curated by the community of their own instance.

That's right! Put dollars in the chicken recipe!

Anyway that's my two cents.

we don't respect meta and don't want to share a platform with them

I guess a big part of the dilemma is, though we mightn't respect meta, some of us respect some of the people who use their services - even like some of them - and would like to be in the loop with them without using meta's services ourselves directly

I'm on a Lemmy instance that's preemptively defederated, and I respect that, but I might think about creating an account on another instance so I can have interoperability ... That said, I've done pretty well almost entirely ignoring Facebook and Instagram so far, so maybe I just won't care enough

Come to think of it, when is someone going to mod one game into the other's engine

:-)

Yes. How have you played so little Skyrim?

My lemmy-client-fu isn't yet up to the task of linking it while on mobile... but I just saw a thread about two tools that will help you essentially clone your Lemmy account to another instance. Might help, even if not perfect?

I suppose one of the losses from Reddit is not being able to link to the "Swamps of Dagobah"...