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[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is the definitive image on all LGBTQ+ gatekeeping discourse, in my humble opinion (but especially during pride month.) i am constantly obligated to say: i don't care if you think asexuals aren't valid, or bi/pan lesbians don't exist, or yadda yadda we need to keep pride safe for work. shut the fuck up! these don't matter!

and while i'm sure some people do hold them very sincerely: it's definitely conspicuous how i have almost never heard these positions expressed in any real-life queer space. these issues are so distorted by online spaces in terms of how prominent they are, and it's worth remembering that

[–] balerion@beehaw.org 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd rather have kink at pride than exclusionists at pride.

[–] Theroddd@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

100% Rather things that push the edges than nothing at all.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] balerion@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago (45 children)

Hard disagree. Kink belongs at pride. It's always been there and is a part of our history. Kinksters are often the people who work the hardest to keep us safe, and who will fight the cops beside us if needed. Besides, pride is specifically a celebration of freaks and weirdos, the kinds of people whose sex lives are condemned as immoral by the majority. Kinksters have every right to be there.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tough. Kinky people can be gay. Our sexuality is just as valid as yours. "Deal with it!"

Edit: I just notice you might be being ironic, saying you want to exclude kink but don't want to have exclusions.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hi I'm gay. Kink isn't a sexuality. People who like Bluey can also be kinky, but that doesn't mean the show should show kink. You do you, but I still don't like seeing kink in public places. 🤷‍♂️

[–] balerion@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Genuine question: Why should anyone care what you like to see in public spaces? I'm honestly curious if you've examined that train of thought. Why should your personal feelings even enter into what is and is not acceptable in public?

Besides, you're a furry, yes? Every argument against kink in public is equally applicable to fursuits in public. "But those people do weird sex stuff and when I see them it makes me think about it" is every bit as true of furries as it is of kinksters.

Personally, I'm a little grossed out by some of the things I see among kinksters at pride. But I'm an adult and I can ignore harmless things I dislike.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kink isn't "a" sexuality. It is a label we put on some people's sexuality that covers galaxies of different things. It can and often does refer to fundamental features of a persons sexuality without which they do not function on a sexual level. What they all have in common is being marginalized. Like you're doing now.