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When EV startups shut down, will their cars still work?
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I'm looking forward to the "how to hack your Tesla to 100% operational functionality using a raspberry pi 9 and this dongle, run your car with your phone!" youtube videos (or whatever streaming service steps over its flaming corpse to replace) it in the next few decades
People have already been jailbreaking Teslas to unlock full self-driving, which is a $10k software patch.
Wait, a Tesla in its default configuration doesn't allow self driving?
😂 people pay to be guinea pigs? Wow...
Welcome to the tech early adopter world.
I for one are very happy that there are so many ~~suckers~~ brave bleeding edge tech adopters willing to spend the money and endure the amateur-hour technology put together with spit-and-chewing-gum so that the rest of us get to enjoy the handful of trully useful stuff that survives to become mature products.
Somebody has to be the cannon-fodder in battling all the fraud and bullshit of present day "Tech" "innovations", and I for one am glad there are so many volunteers.
You shouldn't be happy about that, if for no reason other than other drivers (and pedestrians, cyclists, etc) are put at risk of these systems' limitations, and folks relying on them more than they ought to.
That's up to regulators: even brand new "innovative" electronics devices that plug to mains power still have to obbey regulations to protect people from electrocution, so similarly self-driving vehicles should have to obbey regulations to protect people from being killed by them.
If they don't have to obbey such regulations or the regulations are insufficient, the blame is on the Regulators, which generally means the blame is on Politicians.
It's not up to buyers, early adopters or otherwise, to have the technical expertise to determine if something they're buying is dangerous (often not even experts can tell without actual disassembly and lab testing).
When those things are on wheels, though....
No, autopilot is now also an additional feature
Apparently I’m lying twice over then. You’re probably right about autopilot vs “enhanced autopilot” but I just looked at the order page and only fed is extra cost. It’s also much cheaper than it would have been when I got my Tesla.
Yes, I can't see why people would hear 'Autopilot' and think it had anything at all to do with full self driving.
Have you ever talked to other people before? What you discovered is pretty common, unfortunately.
There is no such thing as "self driving". It's literally just a blatant marketing lie. Tesla has:
Prices for these vary but the latter 2 are both several thousand dollars.
Aside from cosmetic upgrades, all Teslas are essentially the same, just with certain features disabled/pay walled. So your base model 3 has the exact same battery as the top of the line version because it is cheaper to manufacturer them all that way.
That's just not true. Go to https://ev-database.org/ and compare the dry weight of the different models. You don't add 66kg going from standard to long range in software.
Idk, have you seen software bloat these days??
That’s correct, there are some respected engineering channels that specifically mention this is why different models of the same EV require different charging behavior per the manufacturer’s manual. The battery compositions are different and have different densities and characteristics.
Edit: although it’s possible some models could share the exact same battery model and have some software restriction in place.
You're both right, some teslas were sold with their battery software limited. And able to be unlocked via DLC.
And somehow the RPi9 will still need some $90 5V20A USB power supply
You can connect it to the Tesla's battery and it will drain them more in 5 minutes of operation that driving the car for 200 miles does, but at least it will be able to run a full LLM and render billions of triangles with full raytracing at 200 fps on a 4K display.
I've been waiting years for Tesla hacks to add power or remove Autopilot or remove software-locked batteries or unlock paid features. Haven't seen it anywhere.
https://ingenext.ca/products/boost-50
50 hp for $1k
I can't find them right now, but there are similar things you can buy to unlock factory features at a discount.
It's unlikely to happen while Musk can still afford to throw lawyers at them and sue them into oblivion.
That should be a thing - some place where all the connectors from various parts are marked and you can just remove the Tesla brain and put an RPi in place.
But I don't think it is =\
Well, someone did it at least partly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdPRhkbeQJk
Altough in this case it's to improve acceleration, not anything related to privacy.
Should be happening now but I understand these things take time.
Opencore Legacy Patcher, but for cars. Nice.