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[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 51 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Sears and Kmart are such great examples of not evolving with the times.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In SEARS case... just going back to what they originally did. They were Amazon before the internet. You got a catalog in the mail, sent in your order and payment, and they would ship you the product. It's literally the exact same business. It's not even like Amazon came out of nowhere to be as big as it is today, it was on a clear trajectory, at any time SEARS could have jumped into the ring with the business they originally were instead of sticking to the clearly dying department store model.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

at any time SEARS could have jumped into the ring with the business they originally were instead of sticking to the clearly dying department store model.

It's not even that, they could've easily kept their store locations. They just needed to move their catalog online and it would've been a done deal.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They did, but they waited until Amazon was ahead to do it. If I remember correctly they were more expensive than Amazon with no where near the selection of specialty stuff like computer parts or electronics. It meant that Sears was a place I basically never went to except if I was looking for something I literally couldn't find anywhere else.

The thing is, Sears already had the massive infrastructure in place to do it. The downside would have been trying to get their target market to make the switch during a time when Internet wasn't as ubiquitous and there still wasn't much trust in purchasing online.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Which is crazy, because pre-Amazon Sears was exactly the place that had everything, especially appliance repair and parts. They never did have computer stuff but I wouldn’t use Amazon for that either.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If they had come up with a good interface.

There are a couple of stores that I have seen that used to be brick and mortar or catalog based and made the transition to online but their website is terrible.

McMaster-Carr comes to mind. I'm never really sure if I have found the part I'm looking for whenever I shop on their website.

Maybe it's a skill issue, sure, but online shopping should not require an onboarding process.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I think McMaster's transition from catalog to website is brilliant. I've had younger crew be amazed when I gave them an old catalog; like keep it in the break room and flip through it while looking at McMaster on their phone.

I do wonder why they kept the black and white pictures.

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 1 points 1 week ago

McMaster-carr is amazing for technical parts. I love it.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Internet shopping is just a fad!"

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

Ridiculous when they were already known for *catalog shopping

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They were sabotaged. Toys R us too.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah I thought it was corporate raiding and massive leverage that killed them. Like most success name brands that made it to the 80s.

Bain Capital was well known for that kind of bullshit.

[–] Minnels@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Fuck Bain capital. Read so much scummy stuff done by them.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yet every 3rd garage in North America has Craftsman tools

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Canada we have Mastercraft tools.

Sold by our lovingly pet named Crappy Tire stores (Canadian Tire)

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a friendlier name than I usually hear

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do tell.

Crappy tire is what my dad used to call it.

He also called McDonald's 'choke n puke'.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Not that creative: Shitty Tire

[–] tipicaldik@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I still have Craftsman tools I bought in the '80s, and some I inherited from my Dad. My only complaint is whatever they made some of the old screwdriver handles out of has degraded ever-so-slightly and off-gassed something that makes my toolbox smell like somebody puked in it. No idea what's up with that...

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Man, I've smelled tool boxes with that vomit smell and always wondered wtf that was. The most recent one was one my ex inherited from her grandfather. We could not get the smell out.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

Mastercraft has similar quality. Some great stuff for the average joe

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Great, I always wondered if a dog or kid hit my toolbox at some point and how it keeps smelling after decades

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago

Tbf, Craftsman is owned by Stanley Black and Decker (though only since 2017)

Also funny to point out Sears and Kmart as not adapting to the times since they merged in 2005 (like a dinosaur merging with a Neanderthal...)

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I honestly thought B&N would join them 10 years ago. I'm amazed that they managed to hang on

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Books-A-Million and Barnes & nobles have one advantage, people that really like books like picking up the books and looking at them. It also helps that you can usually get coffee and read your acquisitions and there are board games and all sorts of things that they sell to kind of balance out the mix.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To be honest, I'm kinda surprised that I haven't seen any music store chains pop up. People like records, CDs, cassettes and so on for the same reason.

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Around here, vinyl records and local record stores are still doing alright. There's at least 4 if them I know of, and they also sell some cds and tapes still. It is a little odd that no chain has tried to break into that space (or one of the megacorps like Time-WB trying to revitalize some deadmall brand like Sam Goodies.)

[–] machinaeZER0@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Newbury Comics is one place that's also managed to hang in there, which is pretty cool