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[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 22 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Mastodon struggles a bit to pick up pace.

Found this:

https://www.makeuseof.com/why-people-leaving-mastodon/

It explains some pain points.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 23 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Basically it’s “I can’t get ✨ engagement ✨ on Mastodon”

People want big amounts of likes and reposts you don’t get that on Mastodon, the system is too distributed for that.

Bluesky gives them the big numbers

[–] owlboy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

They want an algorithm.

As much as people mock it, or know it’s the source of why social media optimizes for outrage and other unhealthy behaviors, the algorithm is what they are missing on Mastodon.

As someone who always used third party Twitter apps, and never directly saw the algorithm in my timeline, mastodon feels like Twitter always did.

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

People want to socially interact on a platform with the intention of letting you socially interact. I understand Mastodon intends to do the same thing as.BlueSky so the question is why is BlueSky more.popular.

As someone who uses both. Mastodon's UI and signup process is not as straight toward at least that is my personal reason why.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Damn we can’t get influencers? How will we live.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 9 minutes ago

we need People to tell us what to like!!!

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Mastodon is fantastic for niche things. For example myself and my colleagues use it for work stuff and I also use it with a few friends for gaming. that's it. Beyond that if you're going to Mastodon to reach a lot of people and chase clout or what have you you're gonna have a bad time. you'll just be shouting to the void in many cases. I also use it to connect with people using linux for help and suggestions.

But just read feeds on Bluesky and you'll see many people, probably the vast majority, just say they want something that "just works" and them trying to use Mastodon was too difficult. They didn't understand the instances and what have you. It's a generation that's been raised on downloading an app, tapping on it, and it works. Login with your google, facebook, or apple id...that's it.

People these days simply don't want to do too much to use something. they don't want to customize their online experience like we used to do years ago. If it doesn't instantly "work" right out of the box, they won't use it. And even regardless of how much they'll complain about using it and all it's bugs and foibles (X/Twitter, Windows 11, etc) they'll continue to use it cause, again, "it just works".

[–] designatedhacker@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"Freedom of choice Is what you got Freedom from choice Is what you want" -Devo

[–] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 45 minutes ago

Who is this wise sage, Devo? Are they internet search, wait the 80's band with the construction helmets?

Whip it? Whip it good??

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The reasons mentioned in the article:

One reason is that it seemed tech-savvy users heavily dominated the platform, making it difficult for regular social media users to find their way and feel comfortable on the platform.

I think that's saying the content tends to be very niche and it's hard to find people with similar non-tech interests.

and

Users have described their timelines (and even the explore tab) as “stale” because there’s often not much interesting content to consume or engage with.

This lines up with my experience: it's hard to find people with similar interests. Even when you do, people aren't saying much of interest.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 points 29 minutes ago

Yep, same problem Lemmy has vs reddit. Only the nerdiest tech nerds got on here. Not many communities from reddit or just in general here. For example, I had to go back to reddit for a good sized general anime community. It's that or fucking 4chan, and no thanks on the latter.

To me, Lemmy feels very much a giant technology board with a few memes.

But I will say, the past few days, Bluesky has gotten a lot more interesting.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

The last part I think happens because the people who are there are most likely the ones that dislike very short content, which is what Mastodon offers by default (I know it depends on instance, some allow 1k or 5k character toots), but it's a disorganized mess. It's a kind of service/software for fast communication that can be done better in a specific Discord server. The "good stuff" will always end up posted elsewhere, like personal blogs or websites, where it's better organized (most of the time)

One thing that keeps people on xitter is the "it's where I get the news". Major news outlets aren't on Mastodon and likely won't be. There's also the stuff that "you get to know before it becomes news", which also won't be on Mastodon because it lacks the "gossipers" and the mass of users that is needed for having people "everywhere"