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Don't worry guys. We'll run another centrist in 2028 too. But this time it'll work.
Being a centrist is not Harris' problem. Harris' problem was being non-white and a woman in a nation of fickle uninformed voters.
Sure, that didn't help, but she also was a "more of the same" candidate (she's rhe current VP!)
As much as I wanted her to win, she was always a stupid choice in at a time where voters can essentially all agree on one thing: they want change.
Status quo politics is dead, the dems just haven't realized it yet. As braindead as Trump and a most of his policies are, people like that he doesn't give a shit about disrupting things to achieve his goals.
yes, his goals.
You're right, I agree with you and I think his goals are both damaging and stupid... but at the end of the day his strategy is winning and we will obviously have to adapt to beat it.
Democrats would rather lose and blame the left.
We ran a centrist in 2020 and it worked.
Barely...
Biden wasn't really a centrist in the same way Harris was. Biden ran on a progressive-ish platform, and mostly backed it up with action. He sure as hell didn't run on fracking and locking up immigrants like Harris is.
... What the fuck are you talking about
The difference is she is a woman. Denying it won't change a fucking thing.
Oh honey. Its not that. Some of it is that... But 20 million votes are missing from the left; its not because shes a woman that they didnt vote.
Yarp. Definitely had nothing to do with you twits showing just how unresponsive the Democrats are to their supporters.
You're the problem not me. I didnt drum up any apathy. Harris did that all on her own. With some help from you of course. Cant forget how muc you fought against pregenting the mass murder of friends and family. I wonder who you'll put on the chopping block next until it impacts you.
The Dems should definitely move more central on social issues, as the US election system has a huge built in rural bias.
Then focus on more broad-reaching progressive economic topics. Less focus on legislation targeting specific marginalized groups and more on policies which would impact everyone directly. As a potential example, Universal Basic Income ("Freedom Bonus" or whatever it was called) was one such policy which was floated a couple elections ago.
The problem is having a contested convention would have been just as bad. We all know what happened with McGovern in '72. The only chance was immediately unifying behind someone else and Harris was the only one people could agree on.
The main stupid decision was Biden not sticking to his word and choosing to run again despite his obvious unpopularity and age.
Okay that's just copium, but it's jot because she was a centrist either. Harris wasn't even trying to campaign competently or listen to her constituency; ultimately that's what did her in.
Sounds exactly like a centrist to me.
LOL. Voting in the USA is over. There will be no future elections. And I hope you like church.
it's sarcasm mate but yeah I hope they like it too
Oh, you think Trump won't break the barriers and sit for life?
statistically, if he wins, he's likely to sit for life even if he doesn't cancel future elections (or however he plans to suppress democracy), because, you see, he is very old and likely to die soon (but probably not soon enough for my taste).
Look at the guy. He's going to die before the end of the term and Vance will take over. That's when the real fun begins.
Based on how he did with his speech to his supporters, I don't think that'll be for very long...
Clearly the problem is that she didn't move far enough to the right. She only got 2 Cheneys.
I know you're trying to be an asshole but looking at the election results that apparently actually was the issue. Our electorate wants a right wing fascist
God damn, don't you fucking get it? Fascists are NEVER going to accept that a Democrat is one of them. Fascists aren't going to vote for you just because you adopt their policies and throw the right vulnerable populations under the bus. It doesn't matter how far to the right the party moves, fascists will never buy it.
But the left sure as hell will notice who you want to be besties with and who you take for granted.
Moving to the right has failed. Now do the only thing centrists do besides simp for Republicans and become abusive.
I didn't suggest we actually do it.
Yes, you did. And clearly you didnt look at the results. They say nothing about right wing policies trump was capped out and harris didnt have a platform to bring out her base. 20 million of them. Instead she shit on arabs, students, working class, lgbt+. She lost a huge upswing in support by tying herself to biden instrad of throwing him under the bus like she should have.
The writing was on the wall in 2020 when we argued about whether biden really committed to a single term.
We warned you, we pleaded with you, we scolded you that this would happen. But what do we know, we're just russian trolls.
We all went away today, as predicted.
😶🌫️ im invisible.
I saw some smug person saying that today all the accounts who criticized Biden/Harris (as equally as Trump, mind you) would turn off today. I think I'm gonna at least crank out more shitposts just to spite that one person.
I'm sticking around and remaining angry that centrists are still getting the genocide they want.
Spite is a motivator is powerful. I'm a spiteful bitch, and seeing my enemies angry that I'm happy fuels me.
EDIT for clarity due to autism: enemies are centrists, liberals, and the fascists they cater to
Like hell.
I hope in the last leg of their campaign they dig up Nixon's bones and get a endorsement from him to try and draw in conservatives that don't care one bit about Nixon, and alternate and demotivate their actual base of voters!