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On Wednesday, the US Senate will hold a vote on whether to approve the Pentagon’s request to send another $20bn in armaments to Israel, after a year in which the Biden administration has supplied billions of dollars of arms used in Israel's devastating war on Gaza.

Among the weapons to be approved are 120mm tank rounds, high explosive mortar rounds, F-15IA fighter aircraft, and joint direct attack munitions, known as JDAMs, which are precision systems for otherwise indiscriminate or "dumb" bombs.

Separate resolutions are being brought forward for each weapon type, including its cost to US taxpayers. However, together, the initiative is known as the Joint Resolutions of Disapproval (JRDs).

As a result of intensive lobbying from pro-Israel groups like Aipac and the Democratic Majority For Israel, no arms transfer to Israel has been blocked.

The resolutions likely to gain the highest levels of support are expected to involve the tank rounds, which have been responsible for killing hundreds of civilians in northern Gaza in particular, and the JDAMs, which caused the death of well-known figures such as Reuters journalist Issam Abdallah in southern Lebanon, and six-year-old Hind Rajab in Gaza City.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 165 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Here let me fix the headline for you:

US Senate ~~to vote~~ will vote no on Bernie Sanders-led effort to stop arms sales to Israel

There. That way people won't get the wrong impression, like that any of this fucking matters.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even if they pass it, It's getting repealed right away in January. This is far too little too late.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep. The Trump victory means any attempt whatsoever to hold Netanyahu back is completely meaningless.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And now Trump has four years in which they'll start doing to the West Bank what they're doing to Gaza, and Trump will also support Russia and abandon Ukraine because he has a hardon for Putin. Trans folk will be locked up for pedophilia and pedophiles will get pardoned. Leftists will be locked up what's left of press freedom and women's rights will be abolished tariffs will push up prices and the fossil fuel industry that started the world inflation project will get free government money. But I have the feeling you're going to want to tell me more about how Harris has all the same policies as Trump or something.

[–] Remorhaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It’s not going to be just four years. This is going to get real ugly real fast.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe... maybe not. Letting do what they want is in line with trump. But giving money away isn't. So you never know for sure. And isreal probably has enough things stockpiled anyway.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Oh I'm all for them doing it. I'm not trying to say not to do it. If nothing else it will probably bring a lot of Arab Americans back to the Democrats. I'm just bitter because if they had told AIPAC where to go and passed it months ago then I'm pretty sure we'd have at least one swing state. And showing any kind of fire, instead of, "Things will remain the same because we don't see anything wrong with the direction of the country!", would probably have brought more people to the polls in every swing state. I can't guarantee it would have turned into a win, but it wouldn't have been a fucking rout.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least we'll get to see which Democratic members of the genocide caucus need primary challengers in the next election cycle. Supporting Netanyahu isn't going to get more popular as the genocide intensifies.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No we won't. I mean, you might, but no one pays attention to voting records anymore. If it even comes to a vote, no one's going to hold anyone's feet to the fire on how they vote on a bill doomed to go nowhere.

This. Is. Meaningless. I can't stress that enough.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it's meaningless and no one will pay attention, there's no reason to object to doing it.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well they rejected the bill. Did you really pay attention to who voted it down? Do you really care? Even if you go look it up, will it in any way change your actions moving forward? Will you vote any differently or support different candidates based on this?

Again, meaningless.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok. So why are you so angry about something meaningless?

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm angry about meaningless things being done by our elected officials that are of no help to anyone. Like, if my house was burning down and the fire department showed up and the firefighters started spitting into the fire instead of using the hoses, I might also be a bit upset.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's interesting when you have chosen to start being upset.