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so can we maybe stop voting for nazis who want to have the EU roll over and let russia take over?
Then we will need to get governments that will actually do something against big capital making all our lives objectively worse.
The right has a story.. a factually incorrect, bigoted story.. the alternative is people yelling Nuh uh..
Anger motivates people.. so the left needs to give their base an enemy they can rise up against.
Imagine if there was an actual populist candidate on the left with the message "the economy is bad and the ultrawealthy are to blame". How sick would that be. Public smearing would probably start instantly.
They don't even get far enough to become candidate
Then they should be voting for the anti-capitalist parties. They aren't though.
Because these parties tap into the anger people have with the current state of affairs.. and give them a narrative people can follow. I think it's lies and wont actually solve the issues.. but that did not matter to Germans in the 30s and it does not matter now. The left needs better rhetoric.
Example in the Netherlands is that our right wing populist wiped the floor with our left parties leader on healthcare co-pays. He said.. I'll reduce it to 0 immediately. The left said.. there is no money for that, we can half it in the next period and reduce further after that. The right won the elections.. and it turned out there is not enough money to reduce it to zero.. so they can only half it this time around. And the left is doing nothing about this.. such weakness.
What would you have them do? Point out the lies of the nazis? People don't seem to care, they seem to like the lying
Yes, address the lies and formulate a narrative that people can latch onto.
Populism for the left.. I'd be for actually pointing out the ultra rich and corporations robbing everyone and getting us to fight the race war instead of seeing the class war that is being waged against everyone.
They've tried. And not just parties, newspapers and private and public figures, have documented, shown, explained, listed, what have you, the lies of the nazis. People don't care. Or rather, the people who vote for the nazis don't care.
I think there are two kinds of nazi-voters. Actual nazis, and people who fall of their lies. The first group cannot be made to vote differently because you know, they're nazis. The characteristics of the second group, which have led them to fall for the nazi lies, make them unreachable for all normal forms of communication. Even if they get the truth slammed in their gullible faces, they'd typically rather double down than admit they were fooled.
I completely agree with you, we have a problwm, but the solution is not easy nor obvious - other than just banning nazi propaganda and the platforms that profit off of disseminating it, of course.
What narrative have the left provided. Here in the Netherlands the right threw a hissy fit on migrants.. and the left just went Nuh uh.. and we need to fix the environment so everyone needs to invest massively in their house with money they don't have. In the mean time billionaires and corporations cheat taxes and blatantly lie, while polluting orders of magnitudes more and getting left alone because they throw a tantrum, stonewall and sue.
I would have liked to see a properly crafted counter narrative to reighns in corporate interests, address tax evasion and helps people actually fix their shit.